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#570219 - 02/01/18 10:12 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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My 2002 F-250 I bought brand new, just before we got the Sun Runner, it's options are:

Auto Trans
Cruise
Air

-that's it. Just a radio, no carpet, crank windows, no power anything.

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#570223 - 02/02/18 08:37 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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GFC, the first car that I bought with my own money was a '67 Belair wagon with a 327 in it. Fun car!



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#570225 - 02/02/18 01:18 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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Interestingly, I had a 1965 Ford Thunderbird. 390 V8

The car had power windows, power seat, tilt steering wheel, cruise control, AM/FM radio, air conditioning, and seat belts. Pretty optioned out for back then.

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#570227 - 02/03/18 10:13 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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Nice Explorer - love the color.


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#570230 - 02/05/18 06:08 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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Originally Posted by tpenfield
Interestingly, I had a 1965 Ford Thunderbird. 390 V8

The car had power windows, power seat, tilt steering wheel, cruise control, AM/FM radio, air conditioning, and seat belts. Pretty optioned out for back then.


Had an uncle that, I guess, knew somebody higher-up at Mercury back in the 50's. About the time I was born he had a '54 Merc, didn't know much about it other than the reminiscing I overheard about it, I do have a couple of pics of it, and after that he picked up a '58 Parklane. Both of these cars were prototype cars...The '58 had power windows, tilt+tilt-away steering wheel (I believe the T-birds were tilt-aways too), 6-way power seats with a 'memory dial' mounted on the dash, automatic wipers, and automatic headlights.

Back in the '80s I had a '54 Ford Victoria that had power windows, the Ford-o-matic auto trans and the pre-292/312 254 Y-block. That car had more options than my truck! wink

#570236 - 02/06/18 04:05 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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The key things that I like about the new Explorer (and the current day cars in general) are the back-up cameras, navigation system, and phone integration, and perhaps the USB and AC charging outlets.

Those things tend to separate the old vs. new IMO,


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#570237 - 02/06/18 04:47 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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It would be impossible to get by without back up cameras. Especially with bigger vehicles.


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#570239 - 02/07/18 10:12 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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I would like the back up camera for hooking the trailer to the ball but for now my wife is my camera however there are a few occasions that I have to do this by myself. Otherwise when in reverse I turn my head to see where I'm going.


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#570240 - 02/07/18 11:31 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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".......when in reverse I turn my head to see where I'm going."

When I taught Driver Education, this is what we used to tell the kids to do. We explained that just using the mirrors is inadequate because of the blind spots. With today's backup cameras, side cameras, etc., I am not sure how we would need to respond if a student made the argument that, with all the cameras, turning your head while backing is not necessary.

Whenever I back the Tahoe to the trailer, my wife can't figure out which signals to use and has no idea that I need to know the commands with enough time to react. Essentially, I do a better job by myself. I open the tailgate, position myself in the seat so my eyes are pretty much in the center of the car, look straight back, using the center line as a guide. I go very slowly and get out of the car several times to check the alignment of the ball and coupler. It's a pretty lengthy process, but it works 100% of the time.


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#570241 - 02/07/18 12:04 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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With the camera you get it done on the 1st try every time without getting out the truck.


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#570242 - 02/07/18 06:52 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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True, but we have no camera. Do the next best thing.


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#570243 - 02/07/18 08:58 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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#570244 - 02/08/18 12:53 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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Kevin:
Thanks for the link. My next question was to ask if anyone has one of the aftermarket rear cameras. Do you have one of these, or another brand? If so, has it been reliable? How many stars would you give it?


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#570245 - 02/08/18 07:55 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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I have no experience with them beyond reading the reviews.


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#570246 - 02/09/18 10:24 AM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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There are some audio system (radio) upgrade products available that have GPS and back-up camera for cars that don't have them originally. I looked into getting something like this (below) for my older Benz, but the reviews on them are a bit spotty.

Radio Upgrade


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#570268 - 02/12/18 03:09 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted by captkevin
It would be impossible to get by without back up cameras. Especially with bigger vehicles.


I have over 150K miles on my F350 crew cab 4x4 with only side mirrors and no backup camera. Just sayin... funny



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#570270 - 02/12/18 09:33 PM Re: New Tow Vehicle for the Admiral's Daily Car . . . [Re: tpenfield]  
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My 2002 Dodge ram daily driver has 189,000 on the clock & no back up camera so believe me i get it . My 2010 Ram has all the bells & whistles it is much nicer for hooking up the trailer.


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