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My turn to spend money, maybe

Posted By: Silverbullet

My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 01:42 PM

First, I know I am the only one that can determine if an upgrade is worth it. Campers never (except for 2020) come up in value over what you pay for them. You are paying for comfort, convenience, fun and experience. With that out of the way, here's my situation. Looking for thoughts, consideration, advice from those with more experience.

The current market is kind of silly and won't always be that way. My desire is to not overpay for an updated truck camper compared to a more normal market.

We have a 1995 Northland we bought last year right at the start of the pandemic. Bought it for a good price so I know we can get out of it what we have into it, plus probably some. It's been fun and fits us ok. Most of my trips are 2-3 people, but sometimes my wife has a weekend off so it becomes 4 (2 growing boys) I bought it to extend camping season and to camp at the lake with the boat in the summer and in the fall for hunting season. It works for that. Haven't found any current water intrusion though I suspect at some point, there have been a leak or two.

So, why upgrade? From an issues standpoint, the fridge doesn't work on propane. Norcold will replace that fridge under recall, but there will be fab work needed which I will likely have to add some funds too. The jacks need some servicing which I think I can do with their rebuild kits. I don't like the layout of the bed (e/w vs n/s) and my wife would like to have an inside shower on the occasion she comes. Ideally we would like to have an AC to make summers a bit more comfortable when at a place with power which is more common in the summer. Ultimately, finding one in good shape that is 10 or so years newer isn't a bad thing.

So, what's the problem? I still want to go hunting with it and go on forest service roads and not feel guilty. I don't want to pay too much for something overall or find that the amenities I am looking for don't add real value. Much of that is personal choice on how much something is worth, but insights (and writing this out) helps me decide how much I want to spend for the comforts I desire. Long term, I expect a TT is in our future for trips to the coast where weather may be cold.

Fast forward to today's opportunity. A one owner 2005 Lance Lite 845 for sale locally. It's in really good shape, no evidence of leaks though I could see some cracks starting in the lap sealant around a vent. It has the bed I'd like, the wet bath, a fridge that works on all 3 modes, remote jacks (nice but not required) the winter package, 2 propane tanks, and a larger battery spot. The water tanks are a similar size to our current camper. It doesn't have AC but is prewired for it.

In short, it checks all my boxes except for AC

Listed for $8500 which is a bit over NADA.

It's just trying to decide how much I want to spend on a toy upgrade and is this camper at $7500-$8500 worth it. I did offer $6K to start the process, but got no counter offer. Considering bumping to $7 or $7500. I think we can get $3000 for our current camper so that would be a net of $4K.
Posted By: Justification

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 02:02 PM

Would you be able to take this one to your favorite hunting grounds?
Does the Admiral like it?
I;d say the answer to number 2 is more important than question 1.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Justification
Would you be able to take this one to your favorite hunting grounds?
Does the Admiral like it?
I;d say the answer to number 2 is more important than question 1.


The answer to both of those questions is yes.

It's no bigger, inside or out than our current one with the exception of the cabover is a bit longer. I could opt to locate the Lance support struts for the front if I felt the need.

The admiral has not been in this one. She was in a similar one I passed on a month or so ago and did get in the bathroom on that one. Any further offers I make will be contingent on her seeing it just to be sure she can take a shower in a tiny RV shower though she was in the other one we looked at. It also saves some arguments later though I jumped the gun and made my initial offer without discussing with her.

Eventually we will probably still end up with a TT for the trips to the coast though I'd like to wait until she changes her schedule to having weekends off.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 02:43 PM

sounds like a good find. Anything reasonable priced in this market moves fast.

If you are really interested it might be time to move before its gone.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by captkevin
sounds like a good find. Anything reasonable priced in this market moves fast.

If you are really interested it might be time to move before its gone.



It's interesting in this market. Been for sale since Tuesday. It seems that things either move same day or sit. That leads me to believe they are a hair high. I did offer $7 which is an increase. We'll see what they say. Plus, if I'm going to sell our old one, I want to get it clean and on the market ASAP.

I do need to ensure this one will clear our trailer hitch as I need to be able to tow.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 03:24 PM

They aren't going to come off their price so I am going to have to decide if I want to spend that much. It's not a huge amount, but $1000 is $1000
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 04:52 PM

Maybe you can make up the difference on the sale of you current one.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 04:54 PM

maybe go thru the process to get the new fridge installed to help justify price. Especially since you can get it replaced my manufacture.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by captkevin
maybe go thru the process to get the new fridge installed to help justify price. Especially since you can get it replaced my manufacture.


The question is, will we make up the potential for me having to put in some cash. With a second camper, I could certainly leave the old camper at the local dealer for them to do the work. The risk is that I get into fall when the market cools off.

The sale of our current one should be in the 3-3500 range (I paid 2100) which certainly helps to offset.

Of course, fun costs money so I just have to decide how much money I want to spend.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 09:19 PM

Too late. I spent my money.
Posted By: Justification

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/16/21 10:03 PM

Well that didn't take long. Congrats, and Pics or it didn't happen
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/17/21 01:17 AM

Congrats
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/17/21 04:01 AM

We had one, now we have two. Need to sell one to have one.

Old one is in the background.

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Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/17/21 04:53 AM

And admiral was very happy once she got in.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/17/21 05:15 PM

That is the best news
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/22/21 04:27 AM

Found some issues with corrosion that I did not see during the inspection. Was hoping for galvanic corrosion, but I pulled some screws and with the screw came some dark dry shavings.

I immediately jumped to "sell it" and lick our wounds.

Wife calmed me down and asked if there were shops locally that could fix it.

No matter what, we would be out some money so it'll go into the shop to at least get an estimate or 3 on likely and worst case scenarios so we can make an educated decision.

If it comes back to cost less than $1K I'd be happy to have it fixed.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/22/21 11:55 AM

Hopefully it turns out to be a easy fix.

Have you put up the old one for sale?
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/22/21 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by captkevin
Hopefully it turns out to be a easy fix.

Have you put up the old one for sale?


Not yet. Hopefully I can get an estimate reasonably quick so we can make a decision on what we want to do. I don't expect the silly market to keep up through next year so from a finance perspective, selling the old one sooner than later is important.

Fingers, toes and everything crossed.

There are no issues where the structure has failed so I feel it could be done without too much of an issue. If they have to pull the skin up by the front window, I am likely going to have them remove it and I'll have someone make an upholstered insert on the inside.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/23/21 10:28 PM

First eval came back. Needs a reseal. Window and hatch leaking. Some wood damage, but not enough to warrant digging in. Stop future damage and have fun.

They said it was a good unit in really good shape and we got it for a good price.

Good news.

I did take it to a second reputable shop (first is reputable too) and they are doing an eval on Monday. I'll be curious on what they come back with.

Fingers crossed. Then on to the boat next week.

For now, the old camper is loaded and we are headed to the lake to hang out.
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/27/21 03:28 PM

Second shop said no rot so I feel good about the structure. They said I was seeing electrolysis and said they could replace the panels. We haven't talked in detail about how to fix the electrolysis issue.

For now, having the roof resealed and will replace the screws in the lower panels with SS bedded in sealant to prevent water from wicking up in those holes.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/27/21 09:03 PM

Great news - sounds like you found a keeper
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/29/21 05:09 AM

So far so good.

Sold the old camper today, less than 24 hours after posting it.

It sold for 80% more than I paid for it last year. That's a combination of buying it for a good price and selling at the right time.
Posted By: tpenfield

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/29/21 09:28 AM

Great news SB !!! . . . Just thinking . . . with houses, Boats, RV's, and other toys . . . has there ever been a better time to be on the selling end of things ?
Posted By: Silverbullet

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 07/29/21 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by tpenfield
Great news SB !!! . . . Just thinking . . . with houses, Boats, RV's, and other toys . . . has there ever been a better time to be on the selling end of things ?


As long as you can replace it with something that is priced appropriately or don't plan on replacing, it's a fantastic time. We bought the old camper at a fair price last year and the new camper at a fair price this year. Sold the old one for a profit.

Talked to the wife about selling the boat and she was not happy with that discussion. And I get why. But boy, I could probably sell the boat for close to what we paid for it 12 years ago. But, then what. Not too many boats out there that have a 496 on a 22' hull. At least not ones I can afford anyway.
Posted By: captkevin

Re: My turn to spend money, maybe - 08/05/21 08:42 PM

Congrats on the sale.
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