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#77223 - 01/06/06 10:01 PM Re: Bayliner 185  
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I am tbkohl's friend. I had a 2000 1850 Capri (same basic boat) with the 4.3L V6.

Bought new in 2000, had it for 5 years, and sold it. The boat depreciated $4000 in 5 years, an astounding value in my opinion. I could have asked for more when I sold it and easilly have gotten it.

I loved my boat. Wish I would have never sold it. And to that end, it was my 2nd Bayliner. Bayliner number 3 is on the way sometime this year. Love the boats and love the brand.

I never had any problems with it. Oh sure, a screw loose here, some poor finish work there, a carb adjust and so on, but never, and I mean NEVER anything seriously bad.

I do think Bayliner simplified the boats as of 2001 and I don't like them as much anymore. And the quality issue is only a real issue for the smaller 80s Capris....the larger boats as a general rule were assembled with great care. Our first Bayliner was a 1986 2450 Ciera Sunbridge. Didn't have a single problem with it, ever, also owned it 6 years.

You can't go wrong.


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#77224 - 01/08/06 02:05 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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I agree with D_C... I now own my second Bayliner. The first was a 1987 Capri 195 with only the 3.0L engine but it served us fine. I bought it used in '95 from the original owner and used it for 5 years then sold it for 2/3 of what I paid.

I now have an '04 Ciera 22' with the 5.0L Merc. It's not in the same quality league as the Grady-Whites and Boston Whalers that my marina neighbors have, but it has a lot of features, lots of space, and we are pretty happy with it. Especially considering that it's 50-60% of the price...!


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#77225 - 01/08/06 02:31 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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While boat brand questions can conjure up a lot of emotional opinions, I think for the most part, you won't find a lot of boat brand bashing on this site. Exceptions to be sure, but not like many sites. Its the love of boating that people have here that makes this true.

While there is no denying that a Bayliner had some historical issues, and is still known as an entry-level boat, its the value you are looking for - the most bang for the buck. there is nothing wrong with an entry level boat, and not everyone wants to mortagage their children's future to buy an upscale boat.

So whether you have a Bayliner or Cobalt isn't important if it keeps you off the water because you cannot afford the boat. You can have as much fun in a Bayliner as in a Cobalt.

One way to help you decide is the "all-important" boat show. Check out a Bayliner and several other brands you are interested in. Check out the deck fittings, upholstery, engine sizes, fit and finish, and so on.

Then make the decision as to the price/value each brand has to you.

And don't discount used either. Some used boats are in "new" condition. New boats take quite a hit in depreciation in the first two years - probably more than the enjoyment you will get out of it.

After all, boat shows is where some folks look at a new boat they want to buy, and other folks look at the new boat they want to buy used in a couple of years.

Many folks here have bought used boats and will never buy a new one. Me included.

In the past I have bought new - last boat I bought new was a 22ft cuddy. But getting into cruisers, new is just out of my league. I cannot see buying a cruiser and see it drop $40K in value in the first two years.


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#77226 - 01/08/06 02:31 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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I love this thread because I bought a Bayliner 185 a few months back.

But the burning question: George, are you there?
Did you buy the boat yet… or waiting ‘till spring?

There aren't to many of us BL 185 owners here, so stay in touch


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#77227 - 01/08/06 08:25 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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I am going to look at a boat in the next few weeks. I found a 1986 Bayliner 2450 Ciera Bowrider (a one-and-done model only built in 1986) that is perfect for my needs AND my budget.

As I said, I wouldn't be afriad of even the older boats. As stated, you will have just as much fun in a Bayliner as you will in a Cobalt, and those gold-plated emblems look like hell in 5 years anyway. ;\)


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#77228 - 01/08/06 02:32 PM Re: Bayliner 185  
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LL any questions you have fire away. Besides myself I know a few other 185 owners (92 to current). There a tons of us running the rivers/lakes in northern Illinois. Should be a good base for questions.

D_C
Good luck on the new hull......!


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#77229 - 01/08/06 03:01 PM Re: Bayliner 185  
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Thanks tbkohl, you guys have been great so far... and trust me, I will keep asking questions

Since you brought it up, I will ask a 185 question: I have complimented your boat before. I mentioned that I think it looks better than mine. I figured it out: It is the windshield. Maybe it is me, but your windshield looks lower and longer, and maybe a sportier angle. Furthermore, yours is seamless compared the new style w/ pillars.

Staying on topic of this post (I hope :rolleyes: ), here is a question/opinion:
Why did they take a step back with the latest 185 design?


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#77230 - 01/08/06 03:18 PM Re: Bayliner 185  
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A friend from BOC and fellow 185(2005) owner noticed that too as we were river floating one day.
I think the answer is $$...
I checked and to replace ONE side of my windshield was $1100 for the part.
I love the look of the smooth glass I think it sets the boat off.
Here is Pauls boat(inthesticksnow) on BOC

And here is mine. The glass is a little more swept back(angle) and is longer on the hull.
Also notice the hull step (APS) is missing on the newer hulls.Kinda hard to see since it's behind my spare in the pic but it helps get me outta the hole quicker.


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#77231 - 01/08/06 05:05 PM Re: Bayliner 185  
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I think my boat & your friend's are one in the same.
Of course there are probably 25 thousand of these "same boats" around the country
\:D



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#77232 - 01/11/06 01:41 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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Nice boats, guys.

#77233 - 01/11/06 01:51 AM Re: Bayliner 185  
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No doubt that Bayliner provides an avenue to get into boating for people like myself. Once we knew boating was the right thing for us we moved on, up and haven't looked back.
I doubt we would have made the financial commitment if Bayliner hadn't provided a "budget" experience.


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