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#575829 - 06/24/22 01:58 PM
Battery. Why is it....
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Justification
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Fruit Heights, Utah
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That my Diesel truck that sits in the same garage as the boat , and often sits for months at a time without being used original batteries lasted 10 years, The replacement batteries are 8 years old and running strong. My 2011 Camaro that sits in the same garage as the boat is still on it's original Battery(although it struggled with its first start this year). Both of those vehicles are shut off, and covered with no battery shut off over their winter hibernation. The boat on the other hand has battery shutoffs, so in theory no battery drain. Hooked up a charger to the number two battery the other night planning on a first outing last Friday, that was dashed due to High winds. Hooked up the boat, pulled it into the driveway and went to check if she'll start at the lake this afternoon. No reaction when I set the key to run and a big Fat Zero volt reading, either or both batteries. Charger is on the batteries that were bought in June of 2020, hoping I can get them charged enough for the latest first outing since getting into the boating life. Boat batteries last less than two years on average. WTH?
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#575837 - 06/27/22 11:08 AM
Re: Battery. Why is it....
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No warranty left as they are now two years old. Wondering if part of the problem is my battery charger. I had an older Sears 6v/12 Volt battery charger trickle charger with a Starting jump mode. Was a great charger until it was left on a neighbors car overnight when it got rained on an failed shortly thereafter. Did the tragic mistake of replacing it with a Diehard charger while sears was on it's downslide and quality of products was tanking. This charger shows the needle at full charge even with the 2/10 amp option and the charger gets hot, hums strongly, and the Green Charging light is on steady even after leaving plugged in overnight. Just tried to start it in the garage and while it now cranks strongly, no fire. The kill switch is in place, I can't find any circuit breakers popped and I've verified the main circuit breaker is in. All connections I can find are fully engaged, but I'm not hearing the fuel pump, but that could be my memory as to whether I can normally hear it on first turning the key to run. All other normal power up items seem to work as I recall When I jumped it the other day she fired right up and idled great, now nothing.
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#575841 - 06/28/22 08:37 AM
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Sure sounds like fuel delivery. If so, could be a relay, fuse, loose connection, broken wire, fuel pump, filter, or collapsed/damaged/cut fuel line. I think most marine engines build fuel pressure regardless of the engine turning, so I suspect it's not a crank position sensor. Good luck.
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#575846 - 06/29/22 07:19 AM
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Dave R
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That's great news. Glad you got the charger, it will save you many a lot of money if you keep the boat a few years.
If the batteries are bad, consider converting to a dedicated starting battery and a deep cycle house battery with an ML-ACR to combine and isolate them. "Dual purpose starting/deep cycle" batteries are really just starting batteries with a different sticker on them and they don't handle deep cycles very well. The ML-ACR will give you the option of manually combining the batteries from the helm for a starting boost if needed, and otherwise will ensure that the start battery gets charging priority. When the starting battery reaches absorption phase, the ML-ACR will combine both batteries so that the house battery gets charged automatically. The ML-ACR works with any charging source, alternator, trickle charger, etc.
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#575855 - 07/04/22 03:12 PM
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Batteries-- wish I could get the service from all batteries that I'm getting from my truck-- bought new in April 2002, end of August 2013 while parked on the launch ramp after launching the Chap, when I went to start to head back, the 11 year old battery just went BANG-- split the side of it out. Got a ride to Walmart, got a new battery, and THAT battery, almost 9 years later, is still starting the truck like new... Awhile back the battery in our '04 Chebby Venture went bad. For kicks I bought one of Walmart's 1-year batteries. I think it lasted about 369 days and just plain gave up out of nowhere... go figure!
As to fuel pumps-- high pressure pumps seem to suffer from either the impeller failing (coming loose for whatever reason from the motor shaft or just plain breaking), or the motor just dies, for whatever reason. Of the many fuel pumps I've had go bad, NONE of them gave any warning...
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