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#575198 - 06/01/21 07:49 PM Glastron 249  
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Seriously considering buying a 2001 Glastron 249 off a friend who has taken good care of her, kept up on maintenance and is very handy and knowledgeable about boats. Around 550 hours. Shed stored it's whole life, so no bottom paint. Has the VP GS 5.7, so good power. Going out on a test ride this weekend.

Can't find definitive info on when Glastron switched to fiberglass only. I think it was the 2001 model year, but not positive. Any things to look for in a Glastron of this vintage?

Thanks!

Mark


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#575199 - 06/01/21 08:03 PM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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20 year old boat . . . what could possibly be wrong? idn

I know Glastron, and possibly Larson, use/used a special automated fabrication process for their smaller boats that was 'all fiberglass'. . . Not sure about the bigger boats. The thing about boat companies is that they don't seem to want you to know what their boats are made of . . .

I hope all goes well with the test drive. . .


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#575202 - 06/02/21 09:43 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Glastron is/was made by GenMar. The all fiberglass concept was known a Virtually Engineered Composite or VEC. It may be labeled as such on the hull.
One easy way to tell is to look inside the boat where the transom and hull meet. The finish on the inside of a VEC hull is as clean and smooth as the outside of the hull. My understanding is that VEC was only used on smaller hulls, I don't think it was used on boats the size you are looking at.

That said I have always been of the opinion that Glastron and Larson (sister boats) were a very good value for the money. The VP unit is my favorite with a simple throttle body fuel system. The only fly is if the battery is low the boat may crank over fine but the fuel injector won't work. At least this was how my VP was and I was told this was common to them.

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#575208 - 06/03/21 05:08 PM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Keep in mind that some of the ignition and EFI parts become NLA after that much time. Just something to keep in mind. You're actually better off with old school points distributors and carburetors that are supported 100% in the aftermarket than the electronics that Volvo and Merc used because they make them NLA after approx 15 years or so. What the exhaust elbows on those, the gaskets often leak and cause sticky valves and rough running.


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#575211 - 06/07/21 12:49 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Thanks for the advice guys. As it turns out, after an outing on his boat, I discovered there were a few too many issues. First, he had several chips out of the hull that had gone down to the glass fibers and several areas of rub rail that had been pulled away from impacts and cast doubt on the integrity of the deck/hull fitting. There was also staining on the headliner in the cabin, that I'm pretty sure was due to hatches that were left open. Some broken bits here and there...companionway hatch lock busted, some toggle switches broken off. Water heater sits on some rust. Windlass works intermittently. trim controls seem to work intermittently...he said a problem with the electrical contacts. We also lost reverse and neutral half way through our trip. Steering a bit sloppy. Otherwise, it was in great shape for it's age. only 449 hours on a well maintained engine, mostly at no wake speed since he's in the Elizabeth river in VA. Drive had some areas of bubbling corrosion, but nothing on seams and the zinks looked good as did fluids (no milkyness, oil was green). vinyl was in great shape, but probably since boat has been shed stored it's whole life. He has decent logs and receipts for all work. But he's third owner and he's only had it 4 years, so who knows. Engine is carburated and ran well, although it did not like WOT and backfired...probably just out of tune. Elbows are new. bellows look newish. Engine is great. All new hoses, belts, plugs, wires, seems to have good compression. starts right up.

He is asking around $12k, which is fair, especially since I think he's going to have to replace all his shift controls and maybe some guts in the drive now. But I'll probably pass. But thanks for the opinions!

BTW, the whole inside of the hull is chopper gun...no smooth areas...so I think it is NOT the VEC (all glass) hull.

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#575212 - 06/07/21 07:13 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Just reading the first sentence or two of your original post and then your last post, it sounds like the 'dream' vs. the 'reality'.

It does not sound like the boat was/is well cared for. It is a difficult situation to be buying things from friends, so consider yourself lucky.


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#575218 - 06/08/21 02:30 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Intgeresting how things appear as in a dream at first through. Then, reality strikes.


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#575222 - 06/10/21 10:55 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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I would not buy that boat. Too many examples of deferred or ignored maintenance, and if you want a reliable boat that you don't have to fool with, it will take large and regular infustions of cash. I tell any of my friends who want to get into boating....do NOT....buy an old, obviously not well maintained I/O boat esp in our salt water region. You just know what's going to happen. I advise them to buy a much newer boat, with a 4 stroke outboard preferably less than 5 years old. Been there done that and once was more than enough. Life it too short to spend it in the bilge.


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#575226 - 06/13/21 10:21 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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Better to find out now and good job remaining subjective. Most don't and they end up getting something that becomes an issue, or at least requires more than they bargained for.


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#575227 - 06/17/21 03:19 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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This is why I've never much cared for VEC hulls after I seen these--
pics of the sides of 2 brand new 2005 Glastrons at the boat show that year...

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It's nice that the inside of the hull may look like that, but not my idea of what the OUTside should look like! wink


--I took this pic of the Chap- 8 years old at the time- the day I bought it- and it looked that good the
day I sold it too smile

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I'm sure the VEC's are great hulls otherwise....

#575228 - 06/18/21 07:41 AM Re: Glastron 249 [Re: Puddle Pirate 2]  
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That is hard to believe the waves in the hull on those. Never saw anything like that.


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