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#572912 - 10/28/19 02:13 PM .Winterized  
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I'm officially winterized as of Saturday morning. I enjoy the process so much more when I can wear shorts and a T-shirt while winterizing. I have one of those manual oil pumps where it says pump 15 times and your oil is all out. I've had this pump for about 4 years and it almost always took at least 100 times pumping it 15 times each. First year I may not have had the oil warm enough so the second year I made sure the oil was nice and hot. The third year I put duct tape over the dip stick/ tube to keep a proper suction and it worked better. A friend wanted to borrow the extractor last year and he perfected the unit by using a wine cork for the seal and I was able to give it a try for the first time last Saturday. The box is now not lying as it took about 15 pumps to get all the oil out and took less than 10 minutes where in previous years the oil extraction phase took over an hour.

The boat is safely tucked into the garage which also meant I needed to make the snow blower accessible as it would have been trapped. Neighbors must think I was crazy getting the snow blower out and even more crazy as our children were bored on Saturday so they set up the Christmas tree with blinking lights.

I think they are excited for Christmas this year.


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#572913 - 10/28/19 03:17 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Snowed all day yesterday here, and it may be headed your way-- cold too.


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#572914 - 10/28/19 08:42 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Originally Posted by Frantically Relaxing
Snowed all day yesterday here, and it may be headed your way-- cold too.


Yep, the weather forecast for the upper Midwest calls for snow on Thursday with low temps in the teens. I will be making an emergency trip to the lake house tomorrow night to winterize a few non-boat items (boat has already been winterized and stowed).

#572915 - 10/28/19 09:02 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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My boat dock was winterized last weekend, along with the irrigation sprinklers etc. I installed a Nest thermostat in the house so I can monitor the house temp from CA.
When I tow the boat and Jet Ski down early next year, I think I will have to winterize it before leaving. When that time comes I will be asking all kinds of questions.
I will be driving along the I40 from CA to TN. in February March timeframe.


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#572916 - 10/29/19 06:44 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Winterized mine over the weekend. Took 57 gallons of anti-freeze to complete the job. Most of the anti-freeze was used to push the water out of the huge mufflers of the main engines and genset. Used a lot on the three reverse cycle AC units too. Fortunately, my slip neighbor got me the stuff in a 55 gallon drum for free.


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#572917 - 10/30/19 11:22 AM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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You have a great slip neighbor. I used 4 gallons of AF for my mine.


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#572918 - 10/30/19 01:36 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Woke up to 4" of wet sloppy snow today. Way too early for this. Wife's commute is normally 45 minutes was 1 hour 45 minutes today. Not the birthday present she was looking for.


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#572919 - 10/30/19 03:14 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: Dave R]  
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Originally Posted by Dave R
Winterized mine over the weekend. Took 57 gallons of anti-freeze to complete the job. Most of the anti-freeze was used to push the water out of the huge mufflers of the main engines and genset. Used a lot on the three reverse cycle AC units too. Fortunately, my slip neighbor got me the stuff in a 55 gallon drum for free.


Wow! I can do both engines, the generator, two AC units, the house water system and the head with less than 15 gallons. I do use compressed air to drain the house water system, drain and bypass the water heater, drain the water tanks and only put antifreeze in the water lines themselves. The toilet and shower drain get antifreeze, but the Purasan type 1 MSD gets drained only.

Do you use a refractometer to check that you have adequate concentration of antifreeze?



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#572921 - 10/30/19 07:33 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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I've been working on winterizing my boat for the past couple of weeks. I drained the fresh water tank, blew way out all the freshwater lines and water heater and got that all set. A few days ago I closed the seacocks (5 of them) and drained the sea strainers. Then I put my 110V heaters (7 of them) around in the boat, lazarette and engine room.

I think I'm all set and got it done just in time. Last night it supposedly got down to 9*, tonight's temp will be 12* and then slowly warming way up into the mid-20's.

OK, let's all sing together: "We're having a heat wave, a tropical heat wave."


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#572922 - 10/31/19 06:53 AM Re: .Winterized [Re: WayWeGo]  
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Originally Posted by WayWeGo
Originally Posted by Dave R
Winterized mine over the weekend. Took 57 gallons of anti-freeze to complete the job. Most of the anti-freeze was used to push the water out of the huge mufflers of the main engines and genset. Used a lot on the three reverse cycle AC units too. Fortunately, my slip neighbor got me the stuff in a 55 gallon drum for free.


Wow! I can do both engines, the generator, two AC units, the house water system and the head with less than 15 gallons. I do use compressed air to drain the house water system, drain and bypass the water heater, drain the water tanks and only put antifreeze in the water lines themselves. The toilet and shower drain get antifreeze, but the Purasan type 1 MSD gets drained only.

Do you use a refractometer to check that you have adequate concentration of antifreeze?


Here is what I did:

I drained all the fresh water lines and raw water lines and blew them out with compressed air.
I drained the water heater and by-passed it.
I drained all the the raw water strainers with a shop vac
I drained the raw water systems on the main and genset engines.
I drained the two toilets and flushed and drained the two holding tanks.
I drained the freshwater tank.

Since I used the factory strainers to feed anti-freeze to the the two raw water systems and three engines, I had to fill the strainers before I could even begin to get anti-freeze downstream of them. The raw water strainers on my main engines probably hold 2.5 gallons each, they are huge. The strainer on my genset probably holds a gallon and the the other two raw water strainers probably hold 3 quarts each. Tollycraft spent some money on strainers... Anyway, that's 7..5 gallons before I could even start...

I ran all three engines until "dark pink" was flowing out the exhaust. That took some time because of the trapped water in the mufflers.

I probably could have skipped adding anti-freeze to the the raw water systems and fresh water system, but it was available so it made sense to do it. I fed anti-freeze to the fresh water system through the city water hookup, not the fresh water tank. My fresh water system is pretty complex with three sinks, three showers, two toilets, and spigot in the cockpit. My pressurized raw water systems feeds two spigots, one in the cockpit and one by the anchor pulpit. It also has a manifold and valves to feed both toilets if desired. My low pressure raw water system feeds three AC/heat units that are installed all the way forward, in the center of the boat, and all the way aft. Getting anti-freeze through all the hot and cold lines and raw lines took some time and volume.

I added anti-freeze to the fresh water tank until it started draining anti-freeze instead of water. That was probably 4-5 gallons.

I did not use a refractometer, I relied solely on calibrated eyeballs and an abundance of anti-freeze.

I did end up blowing a (hard to locate) fuse on the genset before I finished the job when using the 55 gallon drum, so I postponed the completion of the genset (I was pressed for time) and used two gallons from Lowes to finish the job the next day.

If I did not get anti-freeze for free, I could probably cut it down to 35 gallons with some careful planning.

Hoping this is the last time I Winterize for years. Next year we expect to start heading south for Winters.


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#572938 - 11/02/19 12:25 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Wow, that's an eye opener. I use a grand total of 1.5 gallons to winterize. There is a total of 4 block/manifold plugs that I drain. I open up my thermostat and pour antifreeze until it comes out the drains, closing them as they start to leak pink. I finish with a little down the exhaust hose and pull the hose on the water pump to drain and also pour some antifreeze down there. Bump the engine once to turn the pump and done.

Access isn't so great, but so far I can still reach everything with a little grunting.


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#572940 - 11/02/19 01:53 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: casualboater]  
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Originally Posted by casualboater
Access isn't so great, but so far I can still reach everything with a little grunting.


Yeah, the grunting seems to help me too. Don't know why that works, but it seems to get the job done.


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#572954 - 11/04/19 07:22 AM Re: .Winterized [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Originally Posted by GoFirstClass
Originally Posted by casualboater
Access isn't so great, but so far I can still reach everything with a little grunting.


Yeah, the grunting seems to help me too. Don't know why that works, but it seems to get the job done.


I would like to hear GW grunt.


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#572955 - 11/04/19 10:59 AM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Mine requires grunting and copious cursing when I work on it.


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#572960 - 11/09/19 09:54 AM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Been too busy hunting to winterize. Inside storage is a plus. Tomorrow it's supposed to be 61. Seems like a good day to do the deed.


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#572962 - 11/09/19 09:28 PM Re: .Winterized [Re: On Holiday]  
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Originally Posted by On Holiday
Originally Posted by GoFirstClass
Originally Posted by casualboater
Access isn't so great, but so far I can still reach everything with a little grunting.


Yeah, the grunting seems to help me too. Don't know why that works, but it seems to get the job done.


I would like to hear GW grunt.

You have a very dirty mind. I kinda like that in a guy.


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