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#572270 - 03/26/19 12:37 PM Cobalt 252 vs 272  
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Hope all is well with everyone, good to see a lot of the "old timers" still around a bit on this forum.

We're in the market for a 2005-2010 Cobalt 252 or 272 and i'm curious if anyone as opinions one way or the other. Both are within 12" total length and have the same basic layouts. It seems the 252 (as of 2010 called 262) has a very loyal following and both run within the same price range.

Thanks in advance,
D-Rod

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#572271 - 03/26/19 01:43 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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D-Rod:
Nice to see your are still interested in boating. It's been a long time since we have heard from you. Looks like you are getting into the big boat market. Sorry, but I can't add much to that conversation.

By the way, in years past, many discussions were about internal combustion engines and innovations that hadn't been implemented yet. These included your foresight about variable valves and turbochargers. I, for one, was impressed. Now, a few years later, nearly all auto manufacturers utilize both methods across their model lines. All these techniques, have been applied to newer vehicles, and produce engines that have improved performance and better mpg. As an example, I had a VW Jetta as a loaner car with a 1.4L turboed power system. It was unbelievable how well this little engine performed.

OK. Last time you were at BABC, I believe you were looking into colleges, and we were quite impressed with your skill at setting goals. Are you willing to give us an update?


Have a great day of boating
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300 HP Volvo Penta with catalytic converters

#572273 - 03/26/19 03:00 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: Jack T]  
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Originally Posted by Jack T
D-Rod:


OK. Last time you were at BABC, I believe you were looking into colleges, and we were quite impressed with your skill at setting goals. Are you willing to give us an update?


+1

D-Rod - Welcome back. You should have Admin restore your old account so you don't lose your rank and history.

Regarding the 252 and 272 - I keep my boat in a slip all summer long where it is sandwiched between a 252 and a 272. While I have not been on either boat, I can tell you just from parking next to them that the 272 is a much larger boat with significantly more freeboard.

Where will you be using the boat? Will you be towing?

#572274 - 03/26/19 05:12 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Good friend was looking at 262's at lake of the ozarks & ended up getting a 282 for a better deal. Better deal & much better layout. It seems alot of people get scared off by the bigger size making them easier to find deals on.


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#572275 - 03/26/19 08:12 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted by captkevin
Good friend was looking at 262's at lake of the ozarks & ended up getting a 282 for a better deal. Better deal & much better layout. It seems alot of people get scared off by the bigger size making them easier to find deals on.


That is how I came to own my current boat. I was originally searching for a Regal 2500 but could not find anything even close to my price range. I then found the 2700 within in my price range, so it was an easy decision. Very glad I got the larger boat. The only downside is I can't tow the 2700 w/o calling in a favor.

#572276 - 03/26/19 09:26 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: Dock Holiday]  
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Originally Posted by captkevin
Good friend was looking at 262's at lake of the ozarks & ended up getting a 282 for a better deal. Better deal & much better layout. It seems alot of people get scared off by the bigger size making them easier to find deals on.


That is how I came to own my current boat. I was originally searching for a Regal 2500 but could not find anything even close to my price range. I then found the 2700 within in my price range, so it was an easy decision. Very glad I got the larger boat. The only downside is I can't tow the 2700 w/o calling in a favor.


Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade the tow vehicle


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#572277 - 03/26/19 10:55 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Doh, in looking at photos, I realized that I mis-spoke above about my slip neighbors, My boat is sandwiched between a 282 and a 252, not a 272.

#572281 - 03/27/19 04:37 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: Dock Holiday]  
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Thanks for the kind words and welcome. All is well here. Met a beautiful Ecuadorean back in 2014 and we married and completed her immigration process late last year. Professional career is going exceptionally well and with great satisfaction. My family is doing extremely well. A few years ago they bought a nice lake house near the Eagle Rock area of Table Rock, recently completed major renovations, and then built a nice large bunk house next door with a 40x40 garage in addition to the standard 2 car the main house has. They picked up the 220 a few years ago along with some Yamaha waverunners. Boat is slipped nearby. We're currently based out of Midland, TX and such we spend our time bouncing around on airplanes between Ecuador and Missouri whenever possible.

I actually have the 220 here in Midland to do some heavy maintenance on it: complete distributor replacement, plugs/wires, remove the manifolds and check conditions, replace head unit on the stereo system, etc. Our 2014 X5 towed it like a dream the 12 hours here, 75mph without breaking a sweat. If there is to be any towing of the next boat, it'll have to be with their F250 diesel.

Originally Posted by Jack T
D-Rod:

By the way, in years past, many discussions were about internal combustion engines and innovations that hadn't been implemented yet. These included your foresight about variable valves and turbochargers. I, for one, was impressed. Now, a few years later, nearly all auto manufacturers utilize both methods across their model lines. All these techniques, have been applied to newer vehicles, and produce engines that have improved performance and better mpg. As an example, I had a VW Jetta as a loaner car with a 1.4L turboed power system. It was unbelievable how well this little engine performed.


I spend an evening researching the modern offerings from VP and Merc last week as having been out of the loop away from this forum, unaware of where things had gone. I was quite surprised to find VP had fully transitioned to direct injection, cam-in-block VVT, aluminum blocks and heads, and closed-loop lamda fuel/air control straight from GM's latest truck engines. A 4.3L V6 produces 40hp more than the 5.0 V8 in our current boat while a couple hundred pounds lighter and easier to service with closed cooling. Impressive! I wonder how the reliability is compared to the more traditional approach Mercury took?

Originally Posted by captkevin
Good friend was looking at 262's at lake of the ozarks & ended up getting a 282 for a better deal. Better deal & much better layout. It seems alot of people get scared off by the bigger size making them easier to find deals on.



Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Doh, in looking at photos, I realized that I mis-spoke above about my slip neighbors, My boat is sandwiched between a 282 and a 252, not a 272.


Interestingly enough, there is a 282 at LOTO with twins that's at an attractive price. May try to go look at it but the boss is quite sold on the walk thru transom instead of a walk over like the 282 has. She's also a bit turned off by the thought of twins although I think a 282 with a single 8.1L is probably enough for what they're looking to do.

I recall someone from BABC bought a 252 some time ago ... does anyone remember who that is? Would like to pick his/her mind if they're still around.

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#572282 - 03/27/19 08:01 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Regarding the new GM LS engines. I was always in the "there is no replacement for displacement" camp and considered the big block to be the holy grail for boat motors. I was naturally skeptical when VP announced a 6.0 Litre to replace the 8.1 so many years ago. I just could not wrap my head around a 6 liter motor producing the same low end torque as an 8 liter engine! However, after researching the LS engines and driving a few LS powered boats, I am now a believer. These are not your father's SBC.

Conversely, I also learned that the 8.1 was just a mildly reworked BBC (I had thought it was a brand new design). I wish GM applied the LS technology to the 8.1 motor - that would be awesome!

#572283 - 03/27/19 11:30 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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D-Rod:
Thanks for filling us in. As usual, you have shown characteristics that we all would like to have--and others.

READY TO RUMBLE! Getting ready to have any d-rods running around the house?


Have a great day of boating
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#572287 - 03/28/19 01:59 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Welcome back D-Rod, it's always good to see occasional updates on facebook as well. Years ago we were looking into Cobalt 240/242 size and ended up with our current 2006 Regal 2400 as it had great value for us. Since you are new to the forum may I suggest you take a boater safety course so you can learn the basics of boating. smile


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#572288 - 03/28/19 08:19 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Welcome back D-Rod.
All I can add is our Cobalt has served us very well. Good luck on your search.


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#572289 - 03/28/19 09:58 PM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Hey Rod,

I don't know much about, nor have anything against Cobalts, other than we haven't had one yet! laugh
We almost did, we looked at a 272, and someone else bought it while we were thinking about it...

So while I don't have much to offer about Cobalts, we did spend 5 seasons with a 2003 262ssi, and I'm now a firm believer in Chaparral...
As for boats that go faster than 10 mph, it was and still is my all time favorite boat, by a long shot smile
As for longevity at the hands of someone who don't baby nuthin, I'm still amazed at how well she put up with me. So much so I shall now bore you with pics wink
4 pairs of similar pics, first pic within days of buying her, second pic within days of selling her 5 years later...

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Should you not find your dream Cobalt.... wink


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#572290 - 03/29/19 07:48 AM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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That was a really good looking Chaparral.


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#572297 - 03/31/19 12:12 AM Re: Cobalt 252 vs 272 [Re: DRod2]  
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Good to see you back. Crazy to think that we've watched kids grow up and go out into the world and come back again. Still love our cobalt and still looks great. Good luck on your search. Join the cobaltchat.com. They have some great info and keep eyes out for available board.


James
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2007 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax
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