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#572094 - 01/28/19 01:20 AM And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle--  
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While the ol' GT is an absolute ball to drive, I just don't get to drive it much. We bought it exactly 4 years ago yesterday, an early birthday present for the Admiral. It had 26,xxx miles on it, and it still has 26,xxx miles on it. She's only driven it twice, and in the past couple of years she's just plain become afraid to drive. What she feels comfy driving is the Chevy van of all things, but she's not keen on driving anything. There's a few reasons, but bottom line, I don't drive the Mustang enough to justify the payments, the dollar to mile ratio is astoundingly bad wink --and, I've succeeded in pissing off half the neighbors simply driving it 25mph thru the neighborhood, they all think I'm speeding. Nah- the GT500 mufflers I put on it only make it SOUND like it's going too fast. But oh baby, it takes very little effort TO make it go too fast, or sideways, and the temptation will likely get me in trouble some day...

SO, I'm going to find out who's been honest with me when they told me "Let me know when you're ready to sell that Mustang!" wink

Yeah, gonna miss her...

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And one of these is what we're planning to replace her with:

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The white one is a 2013 with 67k miles,
The silver one is a 2014 with 86k miles...

White has cream interior, like brand new, outside is so clean they even took an underside pic. and overall is absolutely gorgeous...
Silver is all black inside, also like new, and I don't know who detailed these things but in the dashboard closeup ad pics, not a scuff or even a speck of dust can be found.

I like both, but favor the cream, and the pearl white. But only by a snick!

Both are the same price... Car Guru's actually books the 2013 $1500 above the 2014, not sure why--? Both are about what we paid for the Mustang, and we're right-side up on the Mustang loan around $8k so that's all good...

I know zilch about Escalades other than it seems everyone has one wink -- I've driven 2 in my life, both to go pick up boats at launch ramps, and I was pretty impressed even for the short ride! Anyway, I figure at my age, it's about time to give up the last hot rod and buy a Caddy, and one that will pull a boat and haul a few people and/or a bunch of crap around too won't hurt!

Any know issues or pitfalls with these things? And what the hell is 'flex fuel' --- I've been out of the loop awhile, and yeah I could google it but that ain't no fun!


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#572095 - 01/28/19 01:33 AM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Originally Posted by Frantically Relaxing


And what the hell is 'flex fuel' ---

A waste of time.
It says the car is capable of using either normal Gasoline or E85, or any mixture of thereof . E85 is 85% ethanol, 15% Gasoline.... less energy per gallon with more cost per gallon. It's supposed to save the world by producing less C02, but the production of the Ethanol produces more than it saves, diverts farm land that could be used to produce food for vegans, or food for the food that I eat. Al Gore is so happy.

I'm not a fan of Black interiors.... Go with the white with Cream interior, but just know you can't use it to go to the store to get boat parts since the cream will get dirty real quick that way.


BTW..... Black cars sure do shine up nice.



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#572096 - 01/28/19 03:38 AM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Is the cream that beautiful metallic cream. I love that color.

GM has a pretty good reputation on their full-size SUVs. Our 2002 Tahoe has served us well for nearly 140K. Yes, there have been some expensive repairs (oil leaks between engine and tranny, just last week over $700 to replace the gear shift lever because it was intermittently going into Tow Mode with no ability to turn it off except shut down the engine. It's fixed now and even though it was expensive, it is a lot less than buying a newer model, which we will continue to do as long as we have a boat to tow. Besides, the Michelins have a lot of treat left. My belief is that if you keep a GM full-size SUV maintained, it should hold up for a long time. Not just me saying that. I know three others who have similar vehicles and they have the same opinion. OK, I've opened the door--time for more Tahoe problems, now that I said this.

By the way, the brakes on the Tahoe have needed changing only once--at nearly 130K miles. And that was only the rear brakes.

While we are on the subject, when were the latest style of GM full-size SUVs first brought to market? That would be a good year to stay away from. That, also is from a friend who bought a Suburban for his wife. Lots of problems. typical GM first year manufacture.


Have a great day of boating
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#572097 - 01/28/19 12:08 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Oh gawd, I am familiar with GM first year issues, my '84 Buick Regal T-type, first year SFI even-fire turbo V6, soon became known as the Buick From Hell...

Yes, the white is the pearl-cream, one of my favorite ever car colors... (Chrysler's 'toxic orange' is another wink )

"but just know you can't use it to go to the store to get boat parts since the cream will get dirty real quick that way."
--that's what Harbor Freight $4 tarps and moving blankets are for --and Ford Pickup trucks... laugh

good to know the consensus is they hold up well. I think I put maybe 2500 miles a year total on all our vehicles, so I shouldn't wear one out too fast wink







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#572099 - 01/28/19 02:17 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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I'd favor the cream over the silver too. I like silver cars but would avoid the silver because of the black interior.

GW's Terrain is silver with a grey interior. I like that combo and will keep it for a long time as long as it doesn't start nickel and diming us to death. That's when I get rid of a vehicle.

Our 'fleet' includes:
my 1998 Exploder with is now able to wear historic vehicle plates (read that as almost free to renew) and only has 126 clicks on the odo
my 2005 BMW 330ci convertible with 76 clicks on the odo
GW's 2012 Terrain with 75 clicks.

and then there's my fleet of boats, but we won't go there.

Sign me as the Offishul BABC Cheapskate.


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#572100 - 01/28/19 02:49 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Originally Posted by GoFirstClass


Our 'fleet' includes:
my 1998 Exploder with is now able to wear historic vehicle plates (read that as almost free to renew) and only has 126 clicks on the odo
my 2005 BMW 330ci convertible with 76 clicks on the odo
GW's 2012 Terrain with 75 clicks.


Sign me as the Offishul BABC Cheapskate.


I'll call your exploder and raise you with my 1991 Chevy K1500 with 232K (traded in a 1973 Ford F250 with burned valves and 6 MPG)
To counter your 2005 BMW I'll raise with the Admirals Lesbaru outback with 95K
and then I'll Trump your Terrain with my current daily driver 2002 Tahoe with 174,500 miles. Which was bought after the Admiral wrecked her 17 year old 1985 S10 Blazer on its third engine and 211K on the odometer
Average age of my fleet is 15.67 years, and 112,000 miles

whos the cheapskate now?


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#572103 - 01/28/19 11:24 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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The average for my 3 vehicles is 165K miles and a build date of 1988:

1974 Datsun 260Z at 165K
1992 Mercedes 500E at 170K
1999 F350 Powerstroke at 160K



1975 Trojan F36 Convertible, Twin Chrysler 440's
2014 West Marine AL360 Inflatable, 1966 Mercury 6HP, 1992 Mercury 20HP
#572105 - 01/29/19 12:34 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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You win WWG


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#572107 - 01/29/19 04:13 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Well, we've had:
the '89 Mustang for 24 years,
My '76 Harley for 27 years,
my '84 Goldwing for 16 years,
the '87 Sea Ray for 22 years (mostly, lol)
the '95 Party Cruiser for 14 years,
the '88 SkipperLiner for 13 years
the '02 Ford F250 for 17 years

Might not be the oldest stuff but is never upgrading a cheapskate thing? wink (although we DID upgrade the Mustang grin )


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#572108 - 01/29/19 04:22 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Justification]  
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Originally Posted by Justification
You win WWG


Not when you consider all the work it takes to keep these on the road! I think GFC can keep his title.

And then there is our 80 year old house and 43 year old boat...



1975 Trojan F36 Convertible, Twin Chrysler 440's
2014 West Marine AL360 Inflatable, 1966 Mercury 6HP, 1992 Mercury 20HP
#572109 - 01/30/19 11:07 AM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Beautiful Mustang - someone is going to get a nice ride. Cadillac is nice way to go. Good luck on the transactions.


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#572110 - 01/30/19 12:33 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Also big fan of the Denali trucks


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#572111 - 01/30/19 03:48 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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How do you guys keep track of two keys for each of the vehicles/boats you own?


Have a great day of boating
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#572112 - 01/30/19 08:48 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Who needs keys? I hotwired each of them when I stole them. We don' need no stinkin' keys!


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#572196 - 02/24/19 02:57 AM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: WayWeGo]  
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Originally Posted by WayWeGo
The average for my 3 vehicles is 165K miles and a build date of 1988:

1974 Datsun 260Z at 165K
1992 Mercedes 500E at 170K
1999 F350 Powerstroke at 160K


You got us beat.

DD is a 1988 Suburban. Key is so worn it doesn't do much anymore. 180K miles
Wife's driver is a 2000 Subaru Forester. Turned 190K today
"nice" vehicle is our tow vehicle, a 2007 Silverado 2500HD with 137K miles.

So, the average is 169K miles and average year is 1998.3

FR, I'll give you $10 for the mustang. I'll be down to pick it up.

Thanks for the great deal. The wife will love it, each of the 2 times she drives it over the next 2 years because she'll be afraid of it and keep driving her Subaru.

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James
2002 Cobalt 226 VP 8.1GIDP
2007 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax
1988 Suburban 3/4 Ton
2000 Subaru Forester


#572207 - 02/26/19 12:02 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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PA and Smith Mountain Lake
2003 F150 with 96k
2004 Dodge 2500 215k
2017 Accord 16k

Average is 2008 with 109k miles.


2008 Honda Goldwing Trike
2006 Regal 2400
2004 Dodge Ram 2500
2003 Ford F-150
2002 Harley Davidson Roadking Classic
1998 Honda Civic


#572209 - 02/26/19 07:05 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: On Holiday]  
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Originally Posted by On Holiday
2003 F150 with 96k
2004 Dodge 2500 215k
2017 Accord 16k

Average is 2008 with 109k miles.


And with your trips to SML, the mileage on the Dodge is sure to climb!



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2014 West Marine AL360 Inflatable, 1966 Mercury 6HP, 1992 Mercury 20HP
#572210 - 02/27/19 03:49 AM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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FWIW, the Escalade idea is scrapped for the time being. With semi-retirement creeping up fastly, I've been going over the finances more than usual, and whittling our income by roughly 40% means I need to tie up a few loose ends first. Meanwhile, I'm going to spend a little money on my truck and the '89 Mustang (<< only needs a $300 rubber seal kit, a $300 front air dam setup and a $130 fuel pump and she's good as new)

So, vehicle mileage? Not much of an issue if you work 115 hours a week from home...
My truck, 2002 F-250, bought brand new, it's been in the 50k miles range for going on 5 years (56-something right now)
The '13 GT, bought it 25xxx miles 4 years ago, it's got 26xxx miles on it right now...
The '89 GT, bought it in 1995 with 48k miles on it, it's at 101xxx right now...
The chevy van, it had 162xxx when we got it 4 years ago, or was it 5? it's just under 164k right now...
We bought our '00 motorhome 9 years ago, we've put less than 1000 miles on it so far...
The Regal, we bought it 3 years ago, we've put less than 3 hours on it so far.
Party Cruiser, Goldwing, Harley... What I wouldn't give for some time to use some of this stuff!


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#572211 - 02/27/19 04:01 PM Re: And speaking of acquiring a different vehicle-- [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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FR, it's sad to see vehicles sit and not be used. I know as I have a 02 Harley that hasn't been on the road in 2-3 years and an 08 Goldwing that has been off the road for about 5 years. The GW will be spit shined this spring and for sale and split 3 ways as it was my FIL.


2008 Honda Goldwing Trike
2006 Regal 2400
2004 Dodge Ram 2500
2003 Ford F-150
2002 Harley Davidson Roadking Classic
1998 Honda Civic



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