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#571676 - 09/04/18 07:56 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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I agree with everything Mr. T. wrote!


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#571679 - 09/05/18 02:24 AM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Hmm. Not THE Mr. T. Never owned a heavy gold chain to put around my neck. My hair is not long enough to put it up. Don't mind flying so much. But, I like it when a plan comes together. Thank you, George Pittard.

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#571692 - 09/09/18 02:06 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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We have a 1996 Outback that we bought new and now has 170K miles and a 2013 Outback that has 75K miles. Both have been pretty good to own, but I do have concerns about the 2013 lasting a long time. It makes a lot of noise (piston slap?) on startup that I really don't like. Other than that, it has been a great car and we are quite happy with it. Since I do all the post warranty work, I like the engine compartment design that gives you good access to just about everything. You don't even have to jack up the car to change the oil! The headlights are a pain to change, but once you have done it and have some extra plastic fasteners, it goes quickly.

I would recommend that anyone with a Subaru watch the oil level like a hawk and not rely on the low oil warning light. There are many reports of low oil related problems and I know that Subaru has a class action lawsuit against them on that subject.



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#571693 - 09/09/18 02:13 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Subaru fender liner fasteners can be found on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Subaru-Engin...mp;psc=1&refRID=V807HZM1NXJF67NYEJ77

https://www.amazon.com/GOOACC-10296...mp;psc=1&refRID=PJ9SGF81BRCEWN81Q2KY

I have had good luck with Osram headlight bulbs, but I only have one car to service, so I defer to Bob's professional experience on this.



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#571826 - 10/22/18 11:59 AM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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I really wanted to like this car. I had heard such good things about them, but just can't see the excitement about the car.
my 1992 BMW had an oil change reminder
My 2002 Tahoe has and oil change reminder
my 2004 Diesel has an oil life left page in the display
my 2004 Volvo had an oil change reminder.

SO why does a 2014 subaru not have an oil change reminder? It's the admirals car. I don't drive it, so I don't pay any attention to how many miles are on it, other than her telling me that the car reminded her she needs an oil change.. SHe got the low oil light last night and texted me it was time for an oil change. Cool pull into the garage when you get home this morning and I'll do it while she sleeps. It's been 16,000 miles and almost a year since I changed the oil. Hmm, how do I reset the reminder? nothing in the owners manual, subaru forums don't help, someone posted a convoluted how to on youtube about the rear window heat, someone else posted using the lever to the left of the steering wheel, and someone else posted go into the info center on the stereo.
Instead I really find out there is no oil change reminder. Got to go old school and keep track of mileage. It's the admirals car, I don't keep track of mileage. Hmmm, I guess it's going to be whenever she lets me know she's low on oil since that is the only oil reminder light I can find on this car.


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#571828 - 10/22/18 12:49 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Didn't know any cars didn't have oil change monitors. Can't remember the last one i owned that didn't. Wife suv show remaining oil life which is nice.


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#571830 - 10/22/18 02:47 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted by captkevin
Didn't know any cars didn't have oil change monitors. Can't remember the last one i owned that didn't. Wife suv show remaining oil life which is nice.


I suppose you don't drive old vehicles, our 98 Honda Civic didn't have one, my 03 F150 doesn't have one, nor does our 04 Dodge 2500 have oil life monitors. I always rotate my tires at every 5k mile interval (5,000, 10,000, 15,000 etc.) and change the oil in the car and F150 every 5k miles and in the Dodge every 10k miles (use a different oil). This way I don't have to write when I changed the oil or rotated the tires.

My new 17 Accord has the OLM that shows the percentage, we purchased the car with 4,700 miles and the OLM was at 100%. We are now at 11,000 miles and the OLM is at 50%. It was very hard for me not to change the oil at 10,000 miles but I am letting it go until the OLM tells me to change it. I was checking the OLM % at different mile intervals to see if at 10k miles if the OLM went down or not. Surprisingly it didn't.


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#571842 - 10/23/18 04:40 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Justi, I feel your pain. My wife never remembers to tell me that her car needs to have the oil changed. I have developed the habit of asking her EVERY time she drives with me in the car. grin

Like OH, none of our cars have an oil change reminder. My diesel F350 gets an oil change every 250 gallons of fuel, the Subaru every 7,500 miles as per the manual, and all the other cars every 5,000 miles or once a year.



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#571843 - 10/23/18 06:17 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: On Holiday]  
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Originally Posted by On Holiday
Originally Posted by captkevin
Didn't know any cars didn't have oil change monitors. Can't remember the last one i owned that didn't. Wife suv show remaining oil life which is nice.


I suppose you don't drive old vehicles, our 98 Honda Civic didn't have one, my 03 F150 doesn't have one, nor does our 04 Dodge 2500 have oil life monitors. I always rotate my tires at every 5k mile interval (5,000, 10,000, 15,000 etc.) and change the oil in the car and F150 every 5k miles and in the Dodge every 10k miles (use a different oil). This way I don't have to write when I changed the oil or rotated the tires.

My new 17 Accord has the OLM that shows the percentage, we purchased the car with 4,700 miles and the OLM was at 100%. We are now at 11,000 miles and the OLM is at 50%. It was very hard for me not to change the oil at 10,000 miles but I am letting it go until the OLM tells me to change it. I was checking the OLM % at different mile intervals to see if at 10k miles if the OLM went down or not. Surprisingly it didn't.


What i meant was that i didn't realize that any newer cars did not have oil life monitors as the 2014 Subaru that Justification mentioned did not have one. My current daily driver is a 2002 Dodge Ram with 190k that I have had since new that does not have oil life monitor.

Congrats on the new ride. How do you like it? Which model did you go with?

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#571844 - 10/23/18 09:10 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Given that any other car I've bought since 1992 has had the oil change reminder I just assumed it was now a standard feature on all cars.
My 1991 1/2 ton Chevy was the last car I bought that did not, and it has had a very anal retentive oil change system, to the point that when I blew an oil cooler line with 186,000 miles which fried the engine, the machine shop said he had never seen an engine as pristine inside as that engine was.
I keep my cars forever, and do a majority of Mx on them, to the point there are always two oil filters for each car in the cabinets in the garage, and currently at least 9 cases of oil of various viscosities so when the reminder goes off, it's a no brainer to just change it.
Bad assumption on my part I guess,
The diesel oil gets changed every fall when I winterize the boat, and it's oil life monitor has never been below about 48%. The Camaro is changed yearly before winter lay up too, but it feels really wasteful to change out 7 quarts of synthetic when there is only 800-1000 miles on it. Cheap insurance as I know it's probably overkill, but I figure a year in the crankcase is long enough.
At least with the subaru the oil filter sits on top of the engine, so I wrote the date and mileage of when it was changed on the top of the filter so it's obvious and might remind me if she ever needs something looked at under the hood.


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#571847 - 10/24/18 10:00 AM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted by captkevin
Originally Posted by On Holiday
Originally Posted by captkevin
Didn't know any cars didn't have oil change monitors. Can't remember the last one i owned that didn't. Wife suv show remaining oil life which is nice.


I suppose you don't drive old vehicles, our 98 Honda Civic didn't have one, my 03 F150 doesn't have one, nor does our 04 Dodge 2500 have oil life monitors. I always rotate my tires at every 5k mile interval (5,000, 10,000, 15,000 etc.) and change the oil in the car and F150 every 5k miles and in the Dodge every 10k miles (use a different oil). This way I don't have to write when I changed the oil or rotated the tires.

My new 17 Accord has the OLM that shows the percentage, we purchased the car with 4,700 miles and the OLM was at 100%. We are now at 11,000 miles and the OLM is at 50%. It was very hard for me not to change the oil at 10,000 miles but I am letting it go until the OLM tells me to change it. I was checking the OLM % at different mile intervals to see if at 10k miles if the OLM went down or not. Surprisingly it didn't.


What i meant was that i didn't realize that any newer cars did not have oil life monitors as the 2014 Subaru that Justification mentioned did not have one. My current daily driver is a 2002 Dodge Ram with 190k that I have had since new that does not have oil life monitor.

Congrats on the new ride. How do you like it? Which model did you go with?


We went with a Honda Accord Hybrid which has similar amenities as the EX line. Our Civic was an EX however 20 years of automobile advancements makes the base line of any new car light years ahead what was once top of the line in 1998. We are not a hug a tree type family however we enjoy our mid 50 mpg averages.


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#571848 - 10/24/18 10:29 AM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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We have seven cars, a motorcycle, a twin engine boat, two outboards and various mowers, blowers, generators and a log splitter. There is no way I can remember all the details for maintaining each vehicle, so came up with a system to help me.

One thing I have done on all our cars is to write the oil quantity and drain plug wrench size on the underside of the hood so that I don't have to search them out each time I change the oil. I remember the correct oil and viscosity for each of them, but without the info on the hood, I would have to get out the manual for the capacity and carry a handful of wrenches. I also write the lug nut torque on the same label for when I rotate tires.

For our Subaru, I bought a case of factory oil filters that came with crush washers for the drain plug. The rest of our cars have plenty of oil and filters on the shelves in the garage, just like Justi. I keep a shopping list on my phone of garage supplies, so that whenever I am low, I remember what to buy at the store.



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#571905 - 11/15/18 12:46 AM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Hey guys, we have been short on cash flow for a while. Younger son found, using FB local market, a 96 Audi A6 Quattro nearby with only 108K miles that we bought. Body is perfect..no rust. But, I had to replace one of the headlamp bulbs. Dunno if it helps you at all, but I Googled and found out the entire headlamp assembly can be easily removed by turning one plastic lock screw above the headlamp assembly accessible under the hood, and using a rubber mallet to "kinda" tap the entire headlamp assembly forward from the outside. Shop wanted close to 3 bills.

#571912 - 11/15/18 12:02 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Our Tahoe has a rod that holds each headlight assy in. A simple pull and 90 degree turn disassembles it for easy access to the light bulb.


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#571963 - 12/11/18 04:21 PM Re: Stupid Subaru Design [Re: Justification]  
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Had to change the bulbs on my 2010 Dodge Ram. Got on Youtube to check some how to videos. You had to remove the grill before you could remove the headlight assemblies. Overall took about 30 minutes. Wasn't as bad it seemed. Would have been even faster if Amazon had sent the right bulbs.


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