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#571814 - 10/18/18 01:06 PM Oil Filter Mess  
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Hi! In addtion to the bayliner I have a 15 foot pontoon boat with a Yamaha F40 (2011 year). The first few years I changed the oil, hardly a drop came out of the filter when I removed it. The past two years, I've had oil flowing out of the filter all over the place. It's a good thing it's a small filter. I can't for the life of me figure out what I've done differently the past two years. On my F40 the filter is mounted horizontaly on the side of the motor. Any body have any suggestions?


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#571816 - 10/18/18 05:04 PM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: Boatbottom]  
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Do you drain the block before removing the oil filter?


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#571817 - 10/18/18 07:07 PM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: Boatbottom]  
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Try opening the block oil drain, then poke hole in the highest point of the filter. Let it drain for at least 30 minutes.


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#571818 - 10/19/18 01:35 PM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: Boatbottom]  
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Hi Captkevin, I do drain the block before removing the filter. Dave R I haven't tried poking a hole in the filter. Maybe in previous years I waited longer to remove the filter. At any rate, I'll try that next year. Hopefully the job will be much neater.


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#571839 - 10/23/18 04:20 PM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: Boatbottom]  
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I have always wondered why folks want to go to outboards on larger boats that are not easily trailer able. With the high EPA fines for fluid spills, it seems like you would not want to change the oil on an outboard while in a slip.

At the recent in the water boat show in Annapolis, there were many 35+ foot boats with multiple large outboards. Not only do you have the maintenance issues, but you also don't have much of a swim platform. I guess the easy winterization and additional storage below decks is helpful, but not worth it in my mind.



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#571849 - 10/24/18 11:08 AM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: WayWeGo]  
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Originally Posted by WayWeGo
I have always wondered why folks want to go to outboards on larger boats that are not easily trailer able. With the high EPA fines for fluid spills, it seems like you would not want to change the oil on an outboard while in a slip.

At the recent in the water boat show in Annapolis, there were many 35+ foot boats with multiple large outboards. Not only do you have the maintenance issues, but you also don't have much of a swim platform. I guess the easy winterization and additional storage below decks is helpful, but not worth it in my mind.


Outboards weigh less per HP than inboards+running gear and can be trimmed. I imagine the big selling factor is the higher top speed and cruising speed compared to inboard engines with the same HP. I also suspect that the typical 3+ outboard boat buyer is not into DYI anything and does not worry about maintenance at all.


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#571853 - 10/25/18 08:35 AM Re: Oil Filter Mess [Re: Dave R]  
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Originally Posted by Dave R
I imagine the big selling factor is the higher top speed and cruising speed compared to inboard engines with the same HP. I also suspect that the typical 3+ outboard boat buyer is not into DYI anything and does not worry about maintenance at all.

I am not sure if that comparison is as important as looking at the fuel burn rates of a diesel inboard compared to gasoline outboards, which are the common offerings in this size boat. Then again, you are probably right about that type of buyer not maintaining the engines and running gear, and they are also probably more easily swayed by advertising since they are not mechanically inclined.

All the fishermen I know don't have swim platforms because it makes it more difficult to maneuver a fish. What about those big outboards hanging off the stern?

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