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#571700 - 09/11/18 10:25 PM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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A little update. Its fall and stuff is on sale. Have a couple grills waiting for me at Lowes. Both are charbroil performance grills which are pretty similar to what I have had for the last 8 years or so. Here's a 6 burner that I got for $175. https://m.lowes.com/pd/Char-Broil-P...-Gas-Grill-with-1-Side-Burner/1000169857Here's a 4 burner I got for $100. https://m.lowes.com/pd/Char-Broil-P...-Gas-Grill-with-1-Side-Burner/10002484592 more burners worth $75? Weber genesis ii e310 are on sale at some Lowes for $350. If I find one of those I'll get that. My last charbroil is over 8 years old. Buying one of these will be cheaper than buying parts to repair the current grill so it's a no brainer. Any thoughts on 4 burner vs 6? Worth the extra $?
James 2002 Cobalt 226 VP 8.1GIDP 2007 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax 1988 Suburban 3/4 Ton 2000 Subaru Forester
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#571705 - 09/12/18 05:24 PM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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Dock Holiday
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Ruminating on it a bit longer hoping a weber will end up 50% off somewhere.
Weber's rarely go on sale. Last year they revamped their line, so they had good discounts on the old models, but that is not a common occurrence. Not sure if you have assembled one before, but it takes a while, and the box is huge, so you need a van or truck to bring it home. Also, when you are done assembling, you are left with a ton of packaging to recycle. Some stores offer free assembly and delivery, which is a huge time saver. I purchased my current grill from www.Abt.com for this reason (plus it was on sale).
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#571710 - 09/15/18 01:00 PM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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I should add, I have an electric smoker which has been in the box for 3 years. You should break that out  FWIW--I've used my smoker all of twice, but this I've learned: I smoked some babyback ribs at 215, too warm. At 6 hours the ribs were 215, and, because I forgot the WATER PAN, they weren't particularly moist... as to the smoke- an electric burner heats the wood chip box, and it works great. The smoke pouring out of the thing would've got me arrested on a red-air day! I used 2 trays of chips, and the smoke flavor- apple chips- was very intense, to the point of too much even... My second smoking was a small pork roast. This time I remembered the water, but didn't remember to keep the tray full. Results were much better, but I've come to the conclusion that water is VERY necessary when smoking meat! I used Mesquite chips and a little less temp, but again I refilled the chip tray once, and the smoke flavor was extreme. And even with the lower temp, it got done too quick. I think maybe smoker's temp gauge is calibrated low... Other than the water & chips this smoker is full-auto; set the temp, set the meat temp you want, and it shuts down when it gets there. I just got another pork roast to try again, hoping for tomorrow. I just need to remember to fill the water, and try two 1/3 tray of chips instead of 2 full trays worth! 
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#571712 - 09/16/18 08:46 AM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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I should add, I have an electric smoker which has been in the box for 3 years. You should break that out  FWIW--I've used my smoker all of twice, but this I've learned: I smoked some babyback ribs at 215, too warm. At 6 hours the ribs were 215, and, because I forgot the WATER PAN, they weren't particularly moist... as to the smoke- an electric burner heats the wood chip box, and it works great. The smoke pouring out of the thing would've got me arrested on a red-air day! I used 2 trays of chips, and the smoke flavor- apple chips- was very intense, to the point of too much even... My second smoking was a small pork roast. This time I remembered the water, but didn't remember to keep the tray full. Results were much better, but I've come to the conclusion that water is VERY necessary when smoking meat! I used Mesquite chips and a little less temp, but again I refilled the chip tray once, and the smoke flavor was extreme. And even with the lower temp, it got done too quick. I think maybe smoker's temp gauge is calibrated low... Other than the water & chips this smoker is full-auto; set the temp, set the meat temp you want, and it shuts down when it gets there. I just got another pork roast to try again, hoping for tomorrow. I just need to remember to fill the water, and try two 1/3 tray of chips instead of 2 full trays worth!  Temp gauges on the smokers are usually not accurate, so you may want to check yours.. 215 is generally regarded as being too lowfor temp, 225 to 235 is more widely used. Also the ribs only absorb smoke for the first 2 hours or so, after 2 hours you can wrap the ribs in either foil or butchers paper, I prefer butchers paper For baby backs you can do the 2-2-1 method, 2 hours in smoke, 2 hours wrapped then 1 hour unwrapped.
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#571713 - 09/16/18 10:32 PM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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Jack T
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There are a lot of electric smokers out there. The least expensive is a simple barrel with a lid. My son has one of these, and things turn out great--except in the cold of winter in New England. Then, he must wait a lot longer--this smoker does not have adjustable heat, no thermometer, no automatic shutdown. But it works well, especially pulled port butt.
My wife gave me a stainless steel "computer" controlled box the size of a small refrigerator. I never got a lot of satisfaction from it or the results. One day, I took it all apart, just to make sure there were no bad solder joints or wire sockets and plugs. It seemed to work after that, but it had a wide range of max to min temperature. Hardly used, I sold it at a big discount on Craigslist.
Have a great day of boating 2012 Monterey 224 FS, 300 HP Volvo Penta with catalytic converters
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#571714 - 09/18/18 07:26 PM
Re: Time for a new grill?
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2Suns
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I should add, I have an electric smoker which has been in the box for 3 years. You should break that out  FWIW--I've used my smoker all of twice, but this I've learned: I smoked some babyback ribs at 215, too warm. At 6 hours the ribs were 215, and, because I forgot the WATER PAN, they weren't particularly moist... as to the smoke- an electric burner heats the wood chip box, and it works great. The smoke pouring out of the thing would've got me arrested on a red-air day! I used 2 trays of chips, and the smoke flavor- apple chips- was very intense, to the point of too much even... My second smoking was a small pork roast. This time I remembered the water, but didn't remember to keep the tray full. Results were much better, but I've come to the conclusion that water is VERY necessary when smoking meat! I used Mesquite chips and a little less temp, but again I refilled the chip tray once, and the smoke flavor was extreme. And even with the lower temp, it got done too quick. I think maybe smoker's temp gauge is calibrated low... Other than the water & chips this smoker is full-auto; set the temp, set the meat temp you want, and it shuts down when it gets there. I just got another pork roast to try again, hoping for tomorrow. I just need to remember to fill the water, and try two 1/3 tray of chips instead of 2 full trays worth!  Temp gauges on the smokers are usually not accurate, so you may want to check yours.. 215 is generally regarded as being too lowfor temp, 225 to 235 is more widely used. Also the ribs only absorb smoke for the first 2 hours or so, after 2 hours you can wrap the ribs in either foil or butchers paper, I prefer butchers paper For baby backs you can do the 2-2-1 method, 2 hours in smoke, 2 hours wrapped then 1 hour unwrapped. I’ve never been happy with ribs when I’ve wrapped them that long. Then again, I’m unhappy with my ribs more than I’m happy with them. But wrapping for two hours seems to make them, I don’t know, mushy?
By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect "Hungry.”-Gary Larson
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