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#570312 - 02/15/18 01:40 PM Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping.  
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Hi all. I have not been around in a long time. I see a lot of the regulars are still regulars. I occasionally I poke my head in and read a thread or two. We still get out on the water most weekends during the summer and have gotten my money's worth in our Formula 240. We overpaid for a lakefront condo in the overheated real estate market that crashed in 2007. We used the heck out of that condo for 10 years. Last spring, the condo market finally came back to life and we were finally able to sell the condo for a little more than we paid for it in '07. However, we financed it with a 10 year low interest rate mortgage so we had a ton of equity that we rolled into a lake house, which we are loving. The condo was great, but we are really enjoying the house because our children (22,20,16) are still hanging around us with extra people so the extra space and yard is getting fully utilized.

This brings us around to the purpose of the site....boats. Our 240 is 12 years old not. Still in great condition, but with adult sized people around, we want something larger. We went to the boat show this past weekend to get a feel for bow riders in the 27' to 29' range from a couple of manufacturers. I was a bit disappointed in the Regal. The cockpit was plain and boring. Loved the layout of the Searay SLX 280. The Searay is a big boat and I feel like I would be disappointed in the performance of a boat that size with a single engine. I will go on to say that I was not a fan of the new cockpit design of the Cobalts. Again, plain and boring. I am not a brand loyal buyer. I am 100% open to whatever manufacturer makes the product that suits my tastes and needs. That being said, I am back to the Formula line up. The perfect boat for us would be the Formula 290BR with twin small blocks. So I studied the 290 and convinced myself that it was the boat for us. Unfortunately, it will cost me at least $20,000 to put it in our boat house (new lift and modifications to the slip). The price of the boat, new lift, mods, etc priced it right out of my comfort zone. So we are backing up to the Formula 270 with a single big block. We will be sea trialing a 270 tomorrow. Its not as big as I would like, but it will meet our needs more than 80% of the time and it will not require any work to our slip set up. I will come back and share my thoughts after the sea trial. Always enjoyed the feedback from this forum.

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#570314 - 02/15/18 07:23 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Good luck with the sea trial


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#570315 - 02/15/18 07:57 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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CB, I've always been impressed with the fit and finish of Formulas. What size engine does it have and what type of drive?

Also, when you do the sea trial please take some pics so we can all enjoy your new baby.

Oh, and welcome back.


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#570317 - 02/15/18 08:37 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Very exciting can't wait to hear how it goes.


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#570318 - 02/15/18 10:47 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Glad to see another familiar face!

I've always wanted a Formula, just something about 'em I've always loved smile

But I must say this- our '03 Chap 260ssi was my most favoritest boat ever. Was 8 years old when we got it, it looked and ran like new, and after 5 seasons of reasonably hard use, it looked and ran like new. The only part of the boat that noticeably suffered was the carpet wink

First pic in each pair was when we bought it in March 2011, second pics are part of my ad pics in 2016...

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While I DO take care of my stuff, I DO NOT baby my stuff. This boat took all we threw at it and it didn't break a sweat. I'll be forever sold on Chaparral and will recommend them highly thumb
FWIW, the only reason we sold it was the dozen grandkids stopped coming out for boat rides, and we were ready for something we could take a nap in grin -- we found the Regal, which was a pretty good deal, and the Chap sold the first week (no surprise). And while we really like the Regal, I'm not afraid to say it's no Chaparral. Or Formula...

Good luck in your quest!


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#570320 - 02/16/18 02:06 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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I don't suppose Halletts find their way to your corner of the country?

http://hallettboats.com/model_showroom/v-bottom/

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#570321 - 02/16/18 04:23 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Welcome back.


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#570325 - 02/16/18 01:39 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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The F-290BR would have been sweet, but the 270 should do fine. 496 HO in that boat?


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#570326 - 02/16/18 07:01 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Thanks everyone. Its good to be back. We've had a legitimate winter so far and I am glad to be talking about boats. So the sea trial went well. The 270 is a '16 model with 120 hours and 3 years of warranty remaining. We tested with the salesmen, wife, son, daughter and boyfriend. There was 6 of us on board and for bonus we had steady 20 mph winds and white caps on the lake. I was happy about the wind because I wanted to see how it handled the chop. The 3 extra feet was felt in the chop. Not dramatically different from the 240 but noticeable. The boat has a 8.2 liter 380 hp mercruiser/B3 engine/drive set up. I feel like the power was good for that size boat. I have a 496 /375hp in the 240, so the 270 was not quite as skippy as the 240 from a dead stop, but good enough. Boat handled well. It reacts to the trim tabs much quicker than my 240 does. I had to work with them a bit to get it right as I was overdoing it.

The layout is very nice for the way we use the boat. A good wide swim platform and sizable sun pad on the back. The bow and cockpit area feels much larger than the 240. I really like the way Formula has done the front seats. The seat backs allow passengers to face front or back. I was a bit disappointed that it was dirty as heck with some mold on the front seats. Obviously that would be cleaned up before a purchase. Now for the downside. The prior owner ordered it with a wakeboard tower. After being on the boat with it, I dislike the tower more than I expected. It moves around and rattled a bit in the heavy chop. I'm guessing it weighs 150lbs or more. Unneeded weight. Not only that, it limits the bimini top coverage to just the front of the cockpit. We like a lot of shade. I'm going to float the idea of them removing it and patching the mounting holes. Probably will not fly. The tower might be a deal killer for me. Mostly for how it limits the bimini coverage.

The 270 is definitely on the list, even if it does not end up being this particular one.

#570327 - 02/16/18 07:05 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: tpenfield]  
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Originally Posted by tpenfield
The F-290BR would have been sweet, but the 270 should do fine. 496 HO in that boat?
380 HP 8.1 liter mercruiser. Yeah, I think that 290 with twin small blocks would be a sweet set up for sure.

#570328 - 02/16/18 07:06 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Originally Posted by Frantically Relaxing
Glad to see another familiar face!

I've always wanted a Formula, just something about 'em I've always loved smile

But I must say this- our '03 Chap 260ssi was my most favoritest boat ever. Was 8 years old when we got it, it looked and ran like new, and after 5 seasons of reasonably hard use, it looked and ran like new. The only part of the boat that noticeably suffered was the carpet wink

First pic in each pair was when we bought it in March 2011, second pics are part of my ad pics in 2016...

=========================

While I DO take care of my stuff, I DO NOT baby my stuff. This boat took all we threw at it and it didn't break a sweat. I'll be forever sold on Chaparral and will recommend them highly thumb
FWIW, the only reason we sold it was the dozen grandkids stopped coming out for boat rides, and we were ready for something we could take a nap in grin -- we found the Regal, which was a pretty good deal, and the Chap sold the first week (no surprise). And while we really like the Regal, I'm not afraid to say it's no Chaparral. Or Formula...

Good luck in your quest!





I remember when you bought this boat. It's a nice one!

#570329 - 02/16/18 07:08 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Originally Posted by GoFirstClass
CB, I've always been impressed with the fit and finish of Formulas. What size engine does it have and what type of drive?

Also, when you do the sea trial please take some pics so we can all enjoy your new baby.

Oh, and welcome back.


Thank you GFC. I took a couple of quick photos. I will post up when I find the password to my photo hosting site.

#570330 - 02/16/18 07:44 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Is the 270 the one on BoatTrader - Cornelius, NC ?


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#570331 - 02/17/18 04:12 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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"Now for the downside. The prior owner ordered it with a wakeboard tower. After being on the boat with it, I dislike the tower more than I expected. It moves around and rattled a bit in the heavy chop."

Our tower had some of the same issues, but not rattling by itself. It made a pretty bad noise whenever a wake boarder would let loose. I found that the bolts holding it to the gunwall had some rubber spacers between the mounts and the fiberglass. They had deriorated and had shrunk. I removed the 1/2" bolts (nylock antilock threads), remade new rubber and put it back together. This cured the problem.

I agree about the bimini on towers, but I really like the tower while boarding--give a good hand hold.


Have a great day of boating
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#570333 - 02/17/18 08:08 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: tpenfield]  
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Originally Posted by tpenfield
Is the 270 the one on BoatTrader - Cornelius, NC ?


yes.

#570334 - 02/17/18 08:22 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Jack T]  
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Originally Posted by Jack T
"Now for the downside. The prior owner ordered it with a wakeboard tower. After being on the boat with it, I dislike the tower more than I expected. It moves around and rattled a bit in the heavy chop."

Our tower had some of the same issues, but not rattling by itself. It made a pretty bad noise whenever a wake boarder would let loose. I found that the bolts holding it to the gunwall had some rubber spacers between the mounts and the fiberglass. They had deriorated and had shrunk. I removed the 1/2" bolts (nylock antilock threads), remade new rubber and put it back together. This cured the problem.

I agree about the bimini on towers, but I really like the tower while boarding--give a good hand hold.


I believe this rattling, flex, movement was at the hinges. I suspect they could be tightened, but not sure. My crowd only has a very casual interest in water sports and have been spoiled by a neighbors mastercraft and wake surfing. With that as a backdrop, the tower would see very little use.

#570335 - 02/17/18 10:33 AM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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We have been looking at boats in the 25 -28' range & 90% have towers.


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#570336 - 02/17/18 07:08 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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So-- seems to me a good canvas man could make a bimini - or a pair of- that would work with the tower. But me, I'm another ho-hum fan of towers... I'm sure they're great for boarding and holding speakers that always seem to be overdriven by underpowered amps, but seems to me they create more issues than they solve...


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#570337 - 02/17/18 07:31 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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I"m another who ain't at all in favor of towers. A few years ago I was looking at buying a 24' open bow boat that had a tower. I told the seller if he would remove the tower, get a fiberglass repair company to repair the holes and he keep the tower I'd buy the boat.

Needless to say he didn't go for it. Maybe it was the price I offered him for the boat. I guess I'll never know.


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#570342 - 02/17/18 10:48 PM Re: Ahoy! Long time no see. Boat shopping. [Re: Cycleboater]  
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I could live with a factory tower but the tower on this boat was aftermarket with speakers and board racks. It looks out of place on this boat in my opinion.

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