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#569803 - 12/21/17 01:55 PM
Re: Trailer Weight?
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Dock Holiday
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Lake Geneva, WI
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Looking to buy a new truck?
Yup.  Considering the 2018 Ford Expedition, which can tow 9,300 lbs with the HD tow package. My initial rough estimate of my boat + trailer was 9,500 lbs, so trying to sharpen the pencil a bit. With some planning, I can minimize the amount of fuel on board (85 gallon tank), and I can easily drain the fresh and dirty water tanks. Trailer: 2,000 lbs. Dry Boat: 6,200 lbs (with big block and options) Fuel: 30 gallons x 6 lbs = 180 lbs. Misc Junk: 200 lbs. Seems like this would round to 9,000 lbs. Would I be crazy to tow with with an Expedition? The trailer has 4 wheel disc brakes with surge actuator. WWG - Your fuel weight alone puts me over my tow capacity. 
Last edited by Dock Holiday; 12/21/17 02:36 PM.
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#569805 - 12/21/17 02:05 PM
Re: Trailer Weight?
[Re: Dock Holiday]
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Justification
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My Half Ton has a tow rating of 6500 lbs. I had done a few engine mods to increase the power of the 350, put a high volume transmission pan with cooling fins on, and added a transmission oil cooler to try to keep the tranny cooler. I put the boat across the scale when new, full of fuel and came in at 5700 lbs wet. figure when we add all the skis, food, and extranious stuff I tow in at about 6100 lbs. Hard to believe it was 13.5 years ago, but towing said boat with said truck blew the tranny towing to Lake Powell early in the morning in April, so it wasn't too hot yet. You're at a lower elevation, and your hills aren't as long or steep as ours, so towing at capacity may be okay, but I'm a firm believer of weighing the boat as you typically tow it and staying way under capacity here. Plus I'm a Chevy guy, so would vote against the expedition. 
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#569896 - 12/26/17 11:53 AM
Re: Trailer Weight?
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firecadet613
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Serenity Again
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I can't speak for the Expedition, but I can tell you the newer F150s tow great. 24', 5.7 with an aluminum trailer. I can tell it's back there, but not by much.
As to the truck - start looking in the door jambs at the GCVW. On the pickups, you run out of GCVW and space for the tongue weight before you run out of towing capacity. The more options, the smaller your GCVW is, as the vehicle weight is higher. The more options you ad, the higher it goes. Stripped down F150s have a roughly 2200lb payload capacity, mine is just under 1600lbs. Once you get into the Limited/Platinum series trucks - 1200lbs is very common.
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#569929 - 12/29/17 01:08 AM
Re: Trailer Weight?
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some factory figures are a bit dumb... Like our old 27' Winnebago, that towed our near 8000# Sun Runner with relative ease--- ![[Linked Image]](http://www.engraver1.com/boat-ing/rig2.jpg) --once I crunched the GVWR numbers on the plate by the drivers seat, and after adding us and our stuff, gas and water, I came up with about 75 pounds left over for towing weight. Sheesh, the trailer's tires weigh more than that! The Winne had factory suspension air bags all around, and a 3500# hitch that we towed the Sea Ray with, no problem. I have no idea who came up with those weight numbers, but they were pretty bogus. --and that little hitch got replaced by TWO class 3 hitches welded together end to end and bolted to both the main chassis frame rails and the extension frame rails, to pull the Sun Runner. With 80psi in the rear bags the tongue weight barely lowered the back of the Winne...
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CHAPARRAL
by canuckchick71. 04/16/18 12:28 PM
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