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#569629 - 11/08/17 06:13 PM Most recommended tire  
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Hi All,
Years ago I was towing boats all over for my next adventure, and Goodyear Marathons were " The Tire". I'm buying a boat in Fl, and eventually towing it to Ct. The tires on the very nice trailer are visually in good shape, but more than 5 years old in Fl, a no go.
Wondering what the buzz is these days as the best way to go. Part of the deal, the current owner agreed to replace with new tires of my choice, thanks in advance for the input!
Jack


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#569630 - 11/08/17 06:32 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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It seemed back in the day the goodyear marathons lasted forever & Carlisles were junk. Today it seems the Carlisles are decent. That is what we put on. So far so good. Put our boat stays out of the sun in the pole barn except for days she is on the water so that can't hurt.


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#569634 - 11/09/17 10:43 AM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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Our trailer came with Loadstar tires and 10 years later when we sold it, they were still looking good. We had a number of 3-6 hour tows on them and lots of 1 hour tows.

I had Goodyear Marathons on my car transporter and went through a bunch of them, though I tended to tow longer distances at higher speeds. They seemed to last me about three years, no matter how many miles.



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#569637 - 11/09/17 02:00 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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Here is a thread on Carlisle Tires


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#569640 - 11/09/17 03:49 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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I've been towing a lot lately and have found that the best bet is to buy the cheapest tires you can find in the biggest size you can fit and then run them 20% over-inflated. The key to longevity seems to be over-inflation. I run mine at 60 PSI instead of the maximum rated pressure of 50 PSI and they have worked great and run really cool, even for hours at highways speed fully loaded. The tread wear remained even too. When they were at 50 psi they'd heat up and the pressure would go up close to 60 PSI anyway, Now they run cool and barely creep over 62 PSI after a long tow.


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#569642 - 11/09/17 04:09 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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Other advice is to make sure you don't exceed the speed rating of the tire.


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#569644 - 11/09/17 11:33 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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"Other advice is to make sure you don't exceed the speed rating of the tire."

Or maximum load. Unfortunately, this is very easy to do by adding ice chests, equipment, luggage, and anything else you can think of. My second boat had a "custom" trailer built for the boat but was only rated for 1999 lbs load capacity. At the time, trailers rated above that required brakes. A few years after purchase, I had the trailer/boat weighed and it exceeded 1999 lbs by several hundred pounds. I had brakes added, including a higher rated single axle and higher capacity tires.


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#569648 - 11/10/17 07:38 AM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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When replacing trailer tires I always upgrade to a higher class for added maximum load. Costs very little & additional capacity provides good piece of mind. Load rating on original tires typically barely cover weight of boat & trailer.

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#569654 - 11/10/17 10:15 PM Re: Most recommended tire [Re: jetjack]  
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First off, both tires in the pics are Goodyear's...

Second off, many years ago I swore off ever buying Goodyear tires, for various reasons, one of which was lackluster service I'd gotten out of a good many Goodyears I'd ever owned. However, as disclosure, I should point out that I've never in my life paid a dime for a Goodyear tire-- every one I've ever owned was already on whatever it was holding up when I bought it...

That said-- these first pics are of the last failure in a string of many- This is one of the original Marathon RADIALS on the Party Cruiser trailer, it's the left front, of 3 axles. Pics were taken in September 2015, so at the time the tires were 20 years old. Yup, overdue to be changed out, but (a) these tires have less than 3000 miles on them. And (b), check out the steel cords, note the ones I'm holding are sheared. This didn't happen as the tire blew, these cords broke well before the tire blew, due to extreme sidewall squish from hard turning during launching and retrieving. And (c)- this tire blew while PARKED at the harbor-- thankfully!

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--Notice under and near the "Goodyear" lettering in the first pic, the bad rubber cracking, and that slice that goes halfway up the sidewall- failed cords, and some very past-its-prime rubber. 20 years old, okay, but still...

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But alas, I actually, finally, came across a Goodyear I'd actually maybe buy again--
This is a pic of the worst Goodyear Workhorse BIAS PLY tires that were on the Chaparral when I bought it. These tires were 8 year old in these pics, and 2 of them are still on it, at 14 years old- and they haven't changed much. Notice the sidewalls, they look like new, and that's because they are--not a bit of checking or cracking, and they're brutally strong...

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Now note this pic above, check out the missing slabs of rubber- THIS is what happens to bias tires during hard launch turns... rather than severely squishing the sidewalls and tearing the cords apart as with radials, these sidewalls don't give a bit-- but the RUBBER does. And this is an extreme example-- all this missing rubber is courtesy of the Bullfrog launch ramp at Powell, usually in 100°+ heat. Justy will attest wink ...

And as bad as that missing rubber looks, notice the void extends well into the tread, and with that much rubber gone there's still probably legal-depth tread at it's shallowest point.

-- So while the tire looks a bit funky, and should be (and was) changed out soon, IMHO the chances of this tire getting you home without a blowout are about 1000% greater than any 2 year old radial tire.

These Workhorse tires held up the 26' Chap effortlessly. It- and the string of failed Goodyear and various other radial tires ON MULTI-AXLE TRAILERS- are why I'll never put another radial tire ON a multi-axle trailer. Single axle, no problem, but radials- IMO- can't handle the tight turn squish they must endure on multi-axle trailers...


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