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#569151 - 09/14/17 06:30 AM Rinker Boats  
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Back in the market for a boat. Will be used on a lake for water sports and just general boating. Need 10 person capacity. I have been looking at Rinker boats, Anybody have an opinion?

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#569153 - 09/14/17 07:44 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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I am a fan. Been very happy with our 232. Are you looking at new or used boats?


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#569158 - 09/14/17 11:38 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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lots of choices. Let's see if you can narrow things down for us. When you say water sports, what kind of sports? Are you looking for a wake-making machine or a general purpose boat? New, used? Budget? Low , high elevation use? V hull, deck boat? Pontoon? (even the newer pontoons can do all--except make waves.)

By the way, I think there are a lot of us here who just love to spend (or help spend) other people's money. (:-)


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#569159 - 09/14/17 12:17 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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I like Rinker and, speaking of their express cruiser line, feel like they offer a great package for the price. I haven't looked at the bowriders or wake board boats or any of their boats of that size range though.

Quality wise, I would put Rinker on par with a Chevy. They're definitely not a Cadillac but they're also not a Yugo.

One thing to consider is that Rinker makes the hull and top deck and probably the interior furnishings. The engines, gauges, shifters, outdrives and many other parts are made by separate manufacturers. Those same parts are used across the spectrum of boat brands and qualities.

People tend to knock Bayliners for their quality but I remind them that there's a helluva lot of 20-30 year old Bayliners still out there pulling skiers and making a lot of families happy with their boating lifestyle. I think where you tend to see the wear and tear on the older, less expensive boats is in the interior furnishings. Cushions aren't as well put together, the vinyls aren't as tough or durable, carpets tend to wear faster, etc.


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#569162 - 09/14/17 03:01 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Originally Posted by Lemar14
Back in the market for a boat. Will be used on a lake for water sports and just general boating. Need 10 person capacity. I have been looking at Rinker boats, Anybody have an opinion?


Not the best boats in the world, but lots of folks like them for their layout and styling. I think it will be fine for your stated purposes.

Just my opinion, others may vary.


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#569168 - 09/15/17 12:55 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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So many brands, and not much time. Our Monterey is well-built and was highly recommended over a few other brands by folks on this board.


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#569169 - 09/15/17 05:58 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Factory tour photos and videos can be informative on how boats of a particular brand are built.

Here is a video for Rinker . . . there are a few more that come up in a search.



Here is one for Monterey . . . I see chopper guns shocked


So, you can look for things like chopper guns vs. hand layup, or even vacuum injection, the use of wood, the stringer system, wiring, etc.


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#569171 - 09/15/17 09:35 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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A friend had a Rinker 180 something back in the early 2000's and I had a Sea Ray 180 that was I think a 2001, comparing the fit and finish between the two, the Sea Ray was better. Not saying the Rinker wasn't a good boat however the little extra details were not there. My friends enjoyed many summers enjoying the boat before upgrading to a larger size.


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#569174 - 09/15/17 10:11 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Just to be upfront, I'm a Rinker guy, so my opinion may be slightly biased.
I'm currently on my 3rd Rinker, 1998 212, 2001 242fv & now a 2002 342fv.
Rinkers will never be mistaken for a Cobalt, Formula etc....but for the price point, imo there is not a better value. I talked to few people with mid 2000's 23-24 ft. bowriders & have heard nothing but great things. The only thing I would watch out for is the engine/drive combo's. I've seen & heard about some being underpowered. I would keep the search limited to the 350 Mag/B3.

Here on Lake Erie, the land of SeaRay's, you'll get the occasional snobby comments, "O it's a Rinker". Then they step on & actually see the fit & finish. I've change a few minds on the quality of Rinker.

Again, IMO, for the price point, your not going to find a better boat.


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#569183 - 09/15/17 05:51 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: tpenfield]  
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Originally Posted by tpenfield

Here is one for Monterey . . . I see chopper guns
So, you can look for things like chopper guns vs. hand layup, or even vacuum injection, the use of wood, the stringer system, wiring, etc.


I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the chopper gun is being used on the cockpit liner. I spoke with a Monty rep at a boat shows years ago, and he stressed to me how they use hand laid fiberglass mats, with each layer being 90 degrees opposed from the adjacent layers for greater strength.

#569184 - 09/15/17 08:23 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Dock Holiday]  
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
Originally Posted by tpenfield

Here is one for Monterey . . . I see chopper guns
So, you can look for things like chopper guns vs. hand layup, or even vacuum injection, the use of wood, the stringer system, wiring, etc.


I could be wrong, but it looks to me like the chopper gun is being used on the cockpit liner. I spoke with a Monty rep at a boat shows years ago, and he stressed to me how they use hand laid fiberglass mats, with each layer being 90 degrees opposed from the adjacent layers for greater strength.




idn The video does not show the hull layup process, but at about 3:50 of the video it shows the hull in the mold. Sure does not look like hand laid cloth . . . looks like chopper gun material rolled smooth . . . look at the inconsistency of the glassing over the coremat in the hull . . . that is what you would expect with chopper guns. The video is about 2 years old idn


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#569185 - 09/16/17 12:47 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Originally Posted by Lemar14
Back in the market for a boat. Will be used on a lake for water sports and just general boating. Need 10 person capacity. I have been looking at Rinker boats, Anybody have an opinion?


If your local dealer is tops, heck yes. Otherwise I would pass.

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#569188 - 09/16/17 12:09 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: tpenfield]  
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Originally Posted by tpenfield



idn The video does not show the hull layup process, but at about 3:50 of the video it shows the hull in the mold. Sure does not look like hand laid cloth . . . looks like chopper gun material rolled smooth . . . look at the inconsistency of the glassing over the coremat in the hull . . . that is what you would expect with chopper guns. The video is about 2 years old idn


I am not knowledgable enough to make that determination by looking at the glassing, and was giving Monterey the benefit of the doubt here. Their website does not list any details about hull construction. I would be very disappointed if they indeed use a chopper gun for their hulls.

As for Rinker, I have never owned one, but I did assist a friend in buying a used Rinker as his first boat (21' bow rider). It performed and handled well and was a great boat for them. He even sold it for more than he paid for it after 5 years of ownership. However, little items, like cup holders, were on the cheap side. I recall that they had an issue with the cup holders on the "dog house" (engine cover) falling into the engine compartment. The graphics were vinyl stickers and did not hold up to abrasions.

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#569191 - 09/16/17 01:17 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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I like tinker for what I've looked at. My only dislike was how they had a small cockpit and a huge molded swim platform. That was in the captive series in about 2008. They seemed to be a good midlevel boat.


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#569194 - 09/17/17 08:37 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Lots of boat manufacturers use chopper guns for various parts of their construction, basically a cost vs. quality trade-off . . . some use strictly hand layup . . . other use more elaborate processes.

I think the difference would be 'well-built' and 'well-enough built'.

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#569195 - 09/17/17 01:59 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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Was wondering if any real-world test results exist? Is hand-laid really stronger, or just hype? A little research found this:

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Years ago while working for Caver Yachts (mid 80's) we did run some tests, and surprise the chopper won, but, and this is a big one, it depended soley on the operator. You could almost tell who made the lay up by the test results. This is all well and good but you can't chop a full lay up. It saved time and labor for small parts and doing intricate things but in the end you need the directional strength the weaves give you. Thinking about it it seems I might have read about some other tests done in Professional boat builder not sure though. And unfotunatly i no long have access to the Carver data.


So we have chopper gun is actually stronger, IF someone knows how to apply it... and I guess this means the reverse is true with hand-laid... Then I found the 'weave' reference interesting because this statement was also included by another source:

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The main factor affecting the strength of a layup is the glass to resin ratio. The higher, the better. If the skin is vacuum bagged, the chopper gun can get pretty good but otherwise it has a high amount of resin which makes it weaker. Non woven, unidirectional or knitted fabrics can make a stronger layup than woven glass material.


So there you have it-- total inconclusive crap shoot! smile Although the general consensus is hand-laid is better... as long as the new guy isn't doing it wink


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#569204 - 09/18/17 01:10 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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A good friend has a 2010 or 2011 26 foot Rinker bowrider. He's got significant cracking in the gel coat on the top cap. There are plastic vent covers on each side of the boat that are screwed in on each end of the cover. Both covers have broken around the screws that secure them to the hull. My uneducated best guess is there is significant enough hull flexing going on that has caused the cracks and breakage around the fasteners of the vent covers. The gel coat cracks are in the middle of the boat and match on both sides. Otherwise the boat has been trouble free.

#569210 - 09/19/17 02:39 AM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Cycleboater]  
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Originally Posted by Cycleboater
A good friend has a 2010 or 2011 26 foot Rinker bowrider. He's got significant cracking in the gel coat on the top cap. There are plastic vent covers on each side of the boat that are screwed in on each end of the cover. Both covers have broken around the screws that secure them to the hull. My uneducated best guess is there is significant enough hull flexing going on that has caused the cracks and breakage around the fasteners of the vent covers. The gel coat cracks are in the middle of the boat and match on both sides. Otherwise the boat has been trouble free.


Yeah. I'm certainly no Rinker expert, but my baseless suspicion is that Rinkers from the '90s were more desirable (compared to others from that era) than the more recent models.

#569233 - 09/20/17 06:14 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: Lemar14]  
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I think the new Rinker models are a big step forward. We have owned 3 so far & the quality of the newer ones seem to have increased greatly. They have come a long way from my first 95 209.


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#569234 - 09/20/17 07:28 PM Re: Rinker Boats [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted by captkevin
I think the new Rinker models are a big step forward. We have owned 3 so far & the quality of the newer ones seem to have increased greatly. They have come a long way from my first 95 209.


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