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#569279 - 09/27/17 07:46 AM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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I used to have a mid 90's sea ray 180. The fuel vent was up at the front of the boat and would puke out gas when filling. I found a check valve that was sold as a device to stop it. I was skeptical but it worked.


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#569285 - 09/28/17 12:55 AM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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I don't even run a bilge blower. It's probably one reason why I didn't blow up our Sun Runner when the main fuel inlet hose was leaking. And there was the first time I fueled up the SkipperLiner, and came back 2 weeks later, and smelled gas. Some boaters would've turned the blower on to get rid of the fumes. There was over 40 gallons of gas in the blige, and if I'd turned on the blower it's quite likely we'd been blown to kingdom-come. Me, I sniff, as BB noted above, raw gas is very easy to smell. Just my opinion but a bilge blower is oxymoronic- If I don't smell gas, I don't need it. If I DO smell, gas, the LAST thing I'd do is switch it on. And I don't buy into the 'ignition protected' BS. Bilge pumps are supposed to be, and look what happened to Lewis. Any whatsoever compromised wire connection is all it takes.

If I smell gas after fueling- like with the Sun Runner (which has been the only time in my boating life), I'll open the hatch and wait until it's aired out to suit me.

#569288 - 09/28/17 06:24 AM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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FR you bring up a good point. There is a UL standard - UL 1128 - that covers bilge blowers and their spark suppression. I am not sure if all blowers comply with such, but you would think that they should.

One would think that with the purpose of the blower to rid (dilute) the engine compartment of explosive fumes, should they be present, that the blower itself should tolerate fumes without causing an explosion.


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#569289 - 09/28/17 07:35 AM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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This thread makes some great points that i never gave much thought to..

Last edited by captkevin; 09/28/17 07:41 AM.

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#569296 - 09/28/17 02:01 PM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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Here's the specific California Law. Looks like it is dated 1983

https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Document/I6BF30B50D48611DEBC02831C6D6C108E?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default)

Here's a brief of the UL 1128, 3rd Edition, Published: 09/25/1997, Full standard is 24 pages

https://www.techstreet.com/standards/ul-1128?product_id=20099#full


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#569468 - 10/22/17 08:26 PM Re: Tips for Safe Fueling [Re: Jack T]  
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Ventillation systems on gasoline powered boats are regulated by 33CFR 183.610. In addition to the requirements in the regulation, it incorporates by reference several other standards such as UL and ASTM. I didn't go read them all and I'm not a lawyer, but I think the upshot is that blowers in gasoline powered boats are required and the blowers are required to be ignition protected. For Frantically Relaxing a sniff test is certainly great. No gasoline odor? No fire or exposion. Your blower however would not have ignited fumes unless it was defective.


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