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#549916 - 09/13/13 08:03 AM Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat
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There are three 19-foot Scarab jet models being introduced. The standard model is geared to the entry-level jetboat buyer. The Scarab HO provides a higher-horsepower engine, and the Scarab Impulse is geared to the high-performance market.
A broad and integrated marketing campaign will kick off in early December, aligned with the kick-off of the boat show season. The company is currently recruiting new dealers to carry the Scarab boat line. A global dealer meeting is planned for mid-October where the entire line up will be rolled out to dealers and media.

http://www.boatingindustry.com/news/2013...-boat-holdings/
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#549917 - 09/13/13 08:16 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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That guy makes the boat look extra tiny. "Hulk happy, Hulk on Boat!"
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#549919 - 09/13/13 08:37 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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She's no "broad". That's a lady.

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#549922 - 09/13/13 09:03 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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"The Scarab HO provides a higher-horsepower engine, and the Scarab Impulse is geared to the high-performance market."

"Higher horsepower" and "high-performance" are relative terms. Any details on the power plant specs or number of engines? When are real performance figures expected?

Yes, even at 19 feet, they do look a bit small. Any passenger capacity numbers?
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#549924 - 09/13/13 09:11 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Same horsepower as in previous Sea Doo jet boats with Rotax power. 150HP to 250+HP per engine.
Real performance figures expected when the boats are introduced to the media next month.


Just thought I would give ya'all a heads up they are coming soon....
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#549928 - 09/13/13 11:04 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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I am not a wake boarder, but it seems to me that jet boats do not create the wake form that boarders look for in a boat. The boat in the photos is equipped by a (factory-equipped?) tower, and Towers are primarily designed for air and tricks during wake boarding. Am I missing something?

On another bent, we have seen via Capn Morgan that there are a an increasing number of builders now using Sea Doo power plants. If all comes out to the good, it looks like a positive business plan adjustment for Sea Doo.
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#549930 - 09/13/13 11:17 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Yes Jack, a big boost to BRP's bottom line supplying engines to Scarab,Glastron and Chaparral. And there will only be one competitor's engine, and that is Yamaha, since Sea Ray recently jumped off of the Jet Boat bandwagon after completing all the R & D and production tooling to make a 21 and a 24 Jet with Webber power. Seems to be another blunder with Sea Ray spending all that money, make a few dozen boats, and then pulling the plug before they actually brought the boats to market.

Sea Ray cancels entrance to jet boat market
But it is good news for the jet boat builders still in it.
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#549932 - 09/13/13 01:00 PM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Although they may not be very popular in the rest of the world, there is still a huge market for custom high performance jet sport boats in SoCal. They use small block and big block GM engines in front of Berkley (or other brand) jets and some with all the power options possible. These things are flat out FAST OUT OF THE HOLE and MAX SPEED.

Here are some examples I pulled off the customer gallery at eliminatorboat.com. There are other brands as well, but the choices have dwindled drastically through the recession as companies have shut their doors, to be open when money begins to flow once again.







Not exactly a family boat, but here's an example of a drag racing Eliminator with a jet.










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#549943 - 09/13/13 07:28 PM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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That jet catamaran is unusual.

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#549954 - 09/15/13 06:42 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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THOSE are real "jet boats Jack T. smile

My old 18' Taylor SS (may she RIP) and my 20' Hawaiian Bowrider heartily approve.
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#550203 - 09/24/13 08:23 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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#550204 - 09/24/13 08:26 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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"MarineMax signed an agreement to carry the Scarab jetboat line built by Rec Boat Holdings LLC in an effort to fill a void left when Sea Ray opted not to enter the segment.Clearwater, Fla.-based MarineMax has signed on as a premiere retailer for the brand, offering Scarab boats in all 54 retail outlets across the United States."

Good dealer network to market these boats.
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#550933 - 11/01/13 09:09 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Lot's of positive vibes going on this morning at the opening day of the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show.

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#550937 - 11/01/13 09:50 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Very cool the way the incorporate the bimini top & the tower.
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#550941 - 11/01/13 12:21 PM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Capn:
What are the standard engine and upgrade engine options? One or two jets?

I have another question about performance. I once skied behind my BIL 18 foot Hallet with a big block/Berkely jet. Having a relatively flat bottom, I was able to really make it hard for him to steer a straight line while pulling hard outside the wake. Do these newer boats track more like an IO? Would be interested to hear what it is like to drive one.
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#551082 - 11/07/13 04:46 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Jack, standard engines are noted earlier in this thread.

Not an ideal day in Michigan to test these jet boats on lake Cadillac for the BoatingMag guys. funny

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#551083 - 11/07/13 04:52 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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That doesn't look like much fun.
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#551084 - 11/07/13 05:25 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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Bet they had the water to themselves!

Those don't look like typical "jet boats" I've seen!
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#551090 - 11/07/13 06:45 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Capn Morgan]
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At least all of them weren't black

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#551142 - 11/10/13 07:49 AM Re: Scarab 195 HO- New Jet Boat [Re: Jack T]
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Originally Posted By: Jack T
Capn:
What are the standard engine and upgrade engine options? One or two jets?

I have another question about performance. I once skied behind my BIL 18 foot Hallet with a big block/Berkely jet. Having a relatively flat bottom, I was able to really make it hard for him to steer a straight line while pulling hard outside the wake. Do these newer boats track more like an IO? Would be interested to hear what it is like to drive one.


Jack, that was dependant a tremendous amount on how flat the bottoms of those boats are. Some of the old "traditional" jets I so love are pretty darned flat, not a lot of chine to get to hold against the water.

I pulled kids so much on tubes in my old Taylor for so long that "countersteering" became a natural thing, even as my Taylor had a fairly modest rear hull V.

Also SOME of the jets ran (originallY) a "rudder fin" of sorts, my old Taylor did, but the front of that fin was the attach point for the nozzle vertical trim cable. Many of the "speed folks" removed them (claiming "drag"), and, other than waht I will call "fine tracking" they really did not do much since steering was entirely accomplished by full diverting of the entire thrust stream.

Weight is also a big figure. My Taylor SS was right around a ton, and rode the very top of the water, pretty easy to pull around for a skiier, either a deeper set boat (like a Nautique (and even those I ever saw had accessory "sharks fins" up about mid-keel)) or a heavier boat, and yanking it is a lot harder.
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