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#539421 - 10/13/12 09:00 PM Tank for winterizing elixir.  
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When we moved my elixir tank didn't make it. No worries. It was 8 years old and too big anyway.

So no, it's time to winterize. I can buy a 3 gallon tank and an outboard fuel hose and do what I did before but smaller. Total cost is about $60.

I was thinking instead of just sticking the fuel hose into a 1 gallon gas can that I already have. I would be left with much less elixir and would not have to spend even more on winterizing.

I know that it comes with some risk like if the hose came out and spilled gas everywhere or the tank tipped over. I would only be running it on the muffs.

Am I being overly dumb doing it this way? It would save me $40 doing it this way as I would only need the fuel line. Heck, if I just went and bought some automotive fuel line I could save even more. It just doesn't have the nice bulb which probably isn't necessary with an I/O.


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#539429 - 10/14/12 07:30 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: Silverbullet]  
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What is in the elixir you run though the motor?


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#539435 - 10/14/12 08:02 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: Silverbullet]  
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Sounds like a good plan to me. You are doing the work in a controlled environment so it's no more dangerous than pre-filling a fuel filter on an engine that won't self-prime.

While you have the line off the engine, why not add a three way valve on the suction side of the pump, above the level of the fuel tank? That way you can have a short section of hose ready to drop in a gas can when you want to Winterize. I did this with my raw water wash down pump inlet. The through-hull connects to a three way valve and there's a 4 foot length of hose hanging in the bilge. When I want to Winterize, I just flip the valve handle 90 degrees and drop the end of the extra hose in a jug of anti-freeze. Serves double duty as a backup bilge pump too.


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#539439 - 10/14/12 11:31 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: captkevin]  
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Originally Posted By: captkevin
What is in the elixir you run though the motor?


It's a Volvo mix of gas, stabil, 2 stroke oil and fogging oil. I'll have to find the service bulletin for making it, but it exists out there.


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#539440 - 10/14/12 11:35 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: Dave R]  
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Originally Posted By: Dave R
Sounds like a good plan to me. You are doing the work in a controlled environment so it's no more dangerous than pre-filling a fuel filter on an engine that won't self-prime.

While you have the line off the engine, why not add a three way valve on the suction side of the pump, above the level of the fuel tank? That way you can have a short section of hose ready to drop in a gas can when you want to Winterize. I did this with my raw water wash down pump inlet. The through-hull connects to a three way valve and there's a 4 foot length of hose hanging in the bilge. When I want to Winterize, I just flip the valve handle 90 degrees and drop the end of the extra hose in a jug of anti-freeze. Serves double duty as a backup bilge pump too.


That's a really good idea on the 3 way valve. I'll have to look into that.

This year I will be draining the main tank to get the ethanol gas out of the tank. I'll store empty and refill next spring with ethanol free gas now that I have access to it.


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#539461 - 10/15/12 08:34 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: Silverbullet]  
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If you want to save further just don't do it. I'm thinking the TSB was probably for carb models. With injectors nothing is needed for winterization.


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#539462 - 10/15/12 09:10 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: PhatboyC]  
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Originally Posted By: PhatboyC
If you want to save further just don't do it. I'm thinking the TSB was probably for carb models. With injectors nothing is needed for winterization.


It was for efi models. For carb models it was more of spray fogging spray down the carb until the engine stalls.


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#539515 - 10/16/12 10:30 AM Re: Tank for winterizing elixir. [Re: Silverbullet]  
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After what I've found inside the carbs of my Mariner outboard, I'm not sure I'd recommend 2-stroke oil for anything like you're doing... hard green deposits resembling a very brittle, thin layer of paint that NOTHING I tried will break down, including sea foam, carb cleaner, gasoline, alcohol and xylene. I did find that sea foam does cause the stuff to loosen it's bond, but that results in little green flakes that plug up the jets. I believe the stuff has coated the fuel lines too, because after 2 thorough cleanings, the stuff kept showing up in the carbs. I was going to replace the all the lines after the injector pump this summer, never found the time...

That said, how about trading out the 2-stroke oil for Marvel Mystery Oil? Great stuff, and it's 'designed' to burn...


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