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#539386 - 10/12/12 09:04 PM I did it (again)  
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Well, the first time for this boat but done before twice with the previous one: I ran aground yesterday. Water depth went from 8ft to 1ft within a 5ft distance and the outdrive hit the rocks. Fortunately I was at no wake speed and had the plastic prop on the drive. All three blades are a maximum of 1" long.
A nice guy and his wife towed us the almost 2h back to the ramp.

Good thing is that it was the last trip planned this year and there's time to fix it for next season. Water was already down to 73F and air temperature was a chilling 80F and we had some rain, no more reason to go out.
While replacing the bald prop I have to drain the water from the block, put the trailer on blocks and connect the solar charger to the battery to be ready for winter....


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#539388 - 10/12/12 09:08 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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That is stinks for the last ride of the day. What great helpers to tow you 2 hours back to ramp.


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#539392 - 10/13/12 02:35 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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Juergen, what lake were you on? We're back down here in Surprise for two weeks and would like to hit Lake Pleasant. Do you know how the water levels are?


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#539396 - 10/13/12 06:47 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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for anyone that hasn't done this themselves yet, but will in the future..... insurance, minus your deductible, will pay for these types of repairs. don't ask how i know. ;-)


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#539400 - 10/13/12 09:04 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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It hapens to all of us one time or another. Glad no one was hurt.

I wouldn't bother my insurance just for a prop? Even skeg repair is pretty cheap considering.


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#539405 - 10/13/12 11:07 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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With a plastic prop, I doubt it, but if you find you bent your prop shaft, let me know...

#539418 - 10/13/12 07:50 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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when i did it, it tore up the prop and the outdrive.


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#539420 - 10/13/12 08:18 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: BToran]  
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Originally Posted By: BToran
for anyone that hasn't done this themselves yet, but will in the future..... insurance, minus your deductible, will pay for these types of repairs. don't ask how i know. ;-)


I found out the same thing in our first or second year boating. For me it was a SS prop and a bent prop shaft.


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#539427 - 10/14/12 12:38 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Originally Posted By: GoFirstClass
Juergen, what lake were you on? We're back down here in Surprise for two weeks and would like to hit Lake Pleasant. Do you know how the water levels are?


Sorry, got severe backpain the same evening and couldn't move at all. It's almost good again.

Water levels are all high around here as we had rainfall and there's no worry in the marked waters.
Admiral wanted to go all the way up on Canyon Lake (our favorite) and the last section has "unmarked underwater objects upstream". Well, now I know what they are....... Huge rocks, almost vertical, you see on the depth sounder when you hit them.

Originally Posted By: Frantically Relaxing
With a plastic prop, I doubt it, but if you find you bent your prop shaft, let me know...


Kevin, thanks! I will know as soon as my back feels like I can lift more than a glass of water........ It didn't look that bad. The skeg is a tiny bit bend but I don't know whether that was already that way before. The plastic prop is completely destroyed but that gives me the excuse to buy the Amita4 I tried and found good.


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#539428 - 10/14/12 02:35 AM Re: I did it (again) [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Originally Posted By: GoFirstClass
Juergen, what lake were you on? We're back down here in Surprise for two weeks and would like to hit Lake Pleasant. Do you know how the water levels are?

Pleasant is down some -

http://www.cap-az.com/Operations/LakePleasantOps.aspx

But the main ramp (Ten Lane) goes really deep. And the water cops are good about marking any "emerging" obstacles, so it is still feasible to go boating on Pleasant even when the level is bottomed out. Of course all that exposed shore line is uggers. Might want to make the haul to Bartlett or Saguaro for a change. Bartlett is undeveloped, but Saguaro has a maina, lakeside parks, and is real purrdy (bring your camera).

#539443 - 10/14/12 12:47 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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but Saguaro is usually very crowded and not from many you want to have on the lake. That's why we usually go to Canyon. The least crowded one would be Apache, very nice lake, but the dirt road is a challenge for the boat on the trailer and the tow vehicle.


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#539446 - 10/14/12 04:28 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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Agreed, the ramp at Saguaro is a zoo (when it's not an outright combat zone) on Sunday afternoons. The Ten Lane ramp at Pleasant is almost as bad. But if you can do your boating on some other day of the week, none of these are bad.

Kelly

#542154 - 01/03/13 05:37 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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well, took a while until I found the time to get the boat to the mechanic..... Now I know what damage I did fulfilling the admirals quest to go "all the way up".
The prop shaft is misaligned to the absolute maximum Mercruiser allows. As I don't want to run at the limit it will be exchanged. Fortunately no damage to the lower housing and a new prop was due anyhow. Will most likely cost me (with all the other things to be done once the lower housing is taking off) is in the $800 range but that includes the prop and a complete overhaul of the rubbers inside.
Lesson learned: as the captain you should only do what your gut-feeling tells you!

Juergen


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#542155 - 01/03/13 06:22 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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Originally Posted By: kjsAZ
well, Lesson learned: as the captain you should only do what your gut-feeling tells you, or what the Admiral says.

Juergen


There ... I fixed it for you.


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#542158 - 01/03/13 06:41 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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nope, can't afford to have a $800 bill every time I listen to her. Told her already that she can ask for things but should expect to have it refused. On the boat that is.......

To be honest, Xmas she got me a trolling motor for the boat for those cases where i don't want to go in with the big engine.....


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#542162 - 01/03/13 07:02 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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Originally Posted By: kjsAZ
nope, can't afford to have a $800 bill every time I listen to her.

Wait till you see the bill when you stop listening.


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#542170 - 01/03/13 09:01 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: Justification]  
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Originally Posted By: Justification
Originally Posted By: kjsAZ
nope, can't afford to have a $800 bill every time I listen to her.

Wait till you see the bill when you stop listening.


And just wait to see how much you miss out on, when you stop doing what she tells you. rofl


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#542189 - 01/04/13 02:49 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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Originally Posted By: kjsAZ
well, took a while until I found the time to get the boat to the mechanic..... Now I know what damage I did fulfilling the admirals quest to go "all the way up".
The prop shaft is misaligned to the absolute maximum Mercruiser allows. As I don't want to run at the limit it will be exchanged. Fortunately no damage to the lower housing and a new prop was due anyhow. Will most likely cost me (with all the other things to be done once the lower housing is taking off) is in the $800 range but that includes the prop and a complete overhaul of the rubbers inside.
Lesson learned: as the captain you should only do what your gut-feeling tells you!

Juergen
I'd just keep using it. The limits are pretty tight and it will probably be fine. Worst case it fails catastphically down the road (really unlikely) and you buy a brand new SE116 lower for $845 and bolt it on in about 20 minutes.


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#542220 - 01/05/13 02:10 PM Re: I did it (again) [Re: kjsAZ]  
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DaveR, I was tempted to do it as the mechanic said that in spec is in spec but then decided that I didn't want a problem down the road. Better to fix it now than being stranded. The good thing is that he has plenty of time now which may be quite different during the boating season starting around April.
I never expected boating to be cheap and book the amount under "learning".
With most of the rubber being 17 years old (the boat was dry stored her first 10 years) it is time to have it all replaced anyhow. The impeller is only one year old but at $25 for a new one it will be exchanged too and the old one will act as a spare.
The prop has to be new anyhow....... I'll try to take a picture and I am sure that you will agree.

After it's done I will have the fun stuff: install the trolling motor and hopefully a VHF. First have to decide whether I add a swim-platform (that would again be listening to the admiral) as it will impact the trolling motor install. Fortunately both swim platform vendors are local....


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