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#483246 - 04/10/10 06:04 PM Marine Grills  
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I know there was a cool post about grilling on the boat on here, but Bob and I were talking about them today, and we kind of wanted to know what makes marine grills so special. In other words (and here comes my cheap side) why should we pay 300 dollars vs about 50 bucks for a comparable colman stove/grill?

If there's a real reason for it, I'm fine with the cost, but if there isn't, won't any propane grill do?


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#483256 - 04/10/10 08:19 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: FreshWaterLover]  
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They come in a pretty box, and have the word "Marine" on it. funny

But they are also made of stainless steel, and components that won't rust. Not as much of an issue in fresh water, but I suppose the non-marine version grills might corrode.

And the marine version is intended to be securely mounted on a rail or other appendage so that it remains secured on deck (and I suppose can ensure grease drips overboard).

Unfortunately, even the marine version does not include a lip or other mechanism to keep a steak from sliding off the grill (which would be a benefit for some).

If you are contemplating a grill, there are a couple of issues you need to be aware of.

1st. Make sure you can use a gas grill at the dock. There are rules at many marinas prohibiting their use. At my marina, there is even a local fire ordnance that prohibits using gas grills at the dock. You can probably use one on shore in those areas, just not on the dock.

We used to have one of these that we used to keep on the boat, and used on shore when the occasion presented itself:



However, it became a pain in the arse to carry, especially when we could not use it on the dock. Consequently, we have a nice George Foreman electric grill, which we can use on the dock.



2nd. Take special precaution if you store propane on board. The typical $3 portable propane bottle that is used with gas grills is prone to leakage, and like gasoline, propane fumes are heavier than air, and will settle into the bilge, and you could risk an explosion.

I am not positive, but perhaps the gas regulator for the $300 units are made to be less leak prone?

You can buy a bag as shown below, that allows you to store propane canisters outside of the boat.



I have also heard of homemade storage units, basically made with a few pieces of PVC sewer pipe, and is essentially a length of pipe large enough to hold the propane bottle, with a bottom and threaded top glued onto the ends.

Finally, here is a thread of the storage topic that was discussed sometime ago on BABC.

BABC Propane Storage Thread

Larger boats that have propane stoves typically have storage lockers for propane tanks (probably not practical for you):



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#483269 - 04/11/10 09:29 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Al]  
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FWL, one of the concerns of getting any grill is where are you going to store it on the boat while it's not being used. They do take up a lot of valuable real estate because of their size/bulk.

I have the large size Magma and love it. Yes, as Al mentioned, it could use a lip to keep SOME from tossing steaks to the fish, but in the one situation I'm aware of where that happened the steak was already on the prongs of a grill fork and just slid off. A lip would not have helped.

As far as storage of the canisters, if you have a storage compartment on your transom, check to see if there are water drains in the bottom of it that lead to the stern. It's important there be a way for any propane to escape to the outside and those would provide the route.

We use our grill a lot and usually mount it when we first get to a weekend anchorage. It's used for breakfast, lunches and dinners. That helps to keep the interior cabin smoke and grease free.


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#483274 - 04/11/10 01:57 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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Question 2 about these things... what is the real difference between grills labeled for stove/grill, and those just grill? The surface is still a grill, and the fuel is still propane, so aren't they basically the same? I mean, can't you use a 'grill' to cook on with a pan too?


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#483294 - 04/11/10 10:34 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: FreshWaterLover]  
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Yup. I also have one of those things that looks like a pan but has a bunch of small holes in the bottom. It's for cooking shrimp and other stuff that you want to cook hot and fast but won't stay on the grill well.


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#483298 - 04/12/10 04:54 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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We use small foil pans you might get with take out food. I pick up my summer stock from a local pizza shop with the cardboard covers. We will often prep food before going out on the boat. Makes cooking or reheating on the grill pretty mess free.


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#483306 - 04/12/10 08:12 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: kdl]  
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You should try the one that GFC uses; it has a unique feature that dumps your steaks overboard if the temperature gets too high.


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#483402 - 04/13/10 09:33 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Bowline]  
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Grillin is fun in a nice crowded cove, while others enjoy there PB&Js you are waifing nice Sausage and Steak aromas!


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#483404 - 04/13/10 10:08 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: jetjack]  
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#483405 - 04/13/10 10:17 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: On Holiday]  
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Funny and cruel all at once. Hey Jetjack, any reason you chose to mount your grill way up on the bow like that?

I just ordered a grill, rail mount, and propane storage bag like the one shown above (thanks Al). Can't wait.

TWO WEEKS until splash down. LOL


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#483407 - 04/13/10 10:28 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: FreshWaterLover]  
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When I had my cruiser I mounted mine on the bow rails too. I didn't have any rails I could mount on back. I liked the fact that I could use the deck as "preparation" area. I could set the plate and tools on the deck. For me the biggest advantage was to keep the hot grill out of the way of my kids who were usually swimming off of the back or milling around the cockpit.


On my bow rider this is my current set up.
Now you see it.....




Now you don't....





Grilling position....








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#483411 - 04/13/10 10:39 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: tennja]  
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Nice set up like that Tennja.


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#483415 - 04/13/10 11:33 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: FreshWaterLover]  
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Which grill did you end up getting? I've got a Magma Newport that I'm mounting on the stern railing of my 268.


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#483418 - 04/13/10 11:41 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: firecadet613]  
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I still went conservatively "cheap" with the Force 10 Stow and Go. It was 126 and some change while still offering SS construction, a locking lid, grease catcher, etc... plus I liked the fact that it has folding legs so we could take it off the boat and grill on the beach/table top at a campground if we wanted. I figured if it does the job for a season or two while we have a chance to see how others work, or if that is fine for what we need it will have served it's purpose. LOL

The Newport looks REALLY nice, and I like that double shelf cooking surface. We might go that route if the one we got doesn't prove big enough for the two of us. Most of the time it will be just us two. Occassionally there will be a few more, but with the maximum possibility none of them are 'big' enough and we'll likely either cook in shifts, or use the marina's available grills.


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#483498 - 04/14/10 06:03 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: FreshWaterLover]  
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tennja, I love the lines of your boat.
But but being the nervous type,I would be
concerned about the grill being right above
the fuel cap.


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#483511 - 04/14/10 07:24 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Mike K]  
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Great rolleyes I never even thought of that Mike. It actually makes me a bit nervous too now that you mention it. crazy I have never smelled any vapors from it before though. I suspect that most of the time there will be enough breeze and a large enough area that it won't be a big deal.


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#483555 - 04/15/10 08:25 AM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Mike K]  
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Originally Posted By: Mike K
tennja, I love the lines of your boat.
But but being the nervous type,I would be
concerned about the grill being right above
the fuel cap.



Just makes for quicker flame broiling!


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#483616 - 04/15/10 07:14 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Bowline]  
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tennja,
Didn't mean to rain on your parade.
I would fold a towel over the cap.


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#483629 - 04/15/10 08:49 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: Mike K]  
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Ummmm, tenja, I don't think that cap is vented. The holes are for the "key" that is used to unscrew it. If the grill was near your overflow vent, then I might be concerned.


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#483714 - 04/17/10 02:32 PM Re: Marine Grills [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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FWL, we also have a Stow and Go grill and have been quite pleased with it. Mounting ours was a challange on a bow rider with oval railings, but we have it working fine.

I also bought the storage bag, and when done grilling, put the cool grill in a trash bag and then into the storage bag. Once I get home, I spray the grill with oven cleaner and hose it off. Quite easy to clean using this method...and I learned it on BABC! wink



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