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#480328 - 03/01/10 11:41 PM catamarans  
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Saw an ad for Splendor Boats, they're all catamarans.

http://www.splendorboats.com/

They look interesting. Just wondered if anyone has one, riden on one, seen one moving. Would a catamaran be any more fuel efficient than a mono-hull?? Quicker on plane? I know they generally turn flatter, don't lean into turns like a mono. And according to my brother they ride smoother.

Also, related to the thread about changing boat industry, they openly advertise 20%-30% off on factory direct deals.


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#480330 - 03/02/10 02:38 AM Re: catamarans [Re: softsides]  
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#480365 - 03/02/10 05:41 PM Re: catamarans [Re: KCook]  
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softie, I think if you're looking at a boat to use on Lk Erie you probably wouldn't want a cat. Big waters can turn nasty in a hurry and I don't think you'd like the slap-slap-slap ride you would get in a cat.

On deep-v boats, the deeper the deadrise the better they're going to ride in a chop or bigger waves. Try to picture the deep-v hull slicing its way down through a wave. The chines that are often built into the bottom tend to slow down the downward motion of the hull as it slices into a wave, but it's the deadrise that makes the deep-v hull desireable for choppy waters. The reason is the water the boat is slicing through is directed out towards the sides of the boat.

IMHO The area between the hulls on a cat are going to make for a very hard, jostling ride when the "Surf's Up" because there's nowhere for that water to be displaced out to.

If you ever want to see what a huge difference hull shape makes, take a ride on a choppy water in a deep-v boat, then do the same ride on a tournament ski boat on the same water. You'll get beaten to a pulp on the tournament ski boat because of the flat bottom.

But don't take my opinion on that. See if you can get the Splendor dealer to take you for a demo ride on a day when the wind's blowing and there's a 2' or higher chop on the lake.


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#480374 - 03/02/10 07:28 PM Re: catamarans [Re: GoFirstClass]  
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AT SPEED, 2' chop may not be a problem for the Splendor. As a cat will rise (increase freeboard) when running on plane, the same as any other hull on plane. But the transition to high speed may be bumpy. And I'm assuming true chop, closely spaced wave train, so the cat can be kept in trim. In slop, with unorganized waves, a few over 2', I would agree with the caution from GFC.

Cats run a bit like jet boats, happiest very slow or very fast.

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#480379 - 03/02/10 09:07 PM Re: catamarans [Re: KCook]  
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Cat's generally do not have flat hulls; they have a pretty sharp entry into the water. I had a Hobie Cat and never had a "choppy" ride even with white caps...the huls sliced right through the water. Now, I know that the Hobie is a sail boat, but the hull shapes are similar to power cats. I don't know if the ride in a power cat would be any more rough than a monohull.


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#480402 - 03/02/10 10:59 PM Re: catamarans [Re: Bowline]  
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Kelly, thanks for the link. Alot of good information and discussion. And at least one very happy owner, JimmyC. I've never given cats much consideration, though I love watching the big go-fasts. My brother from NJ raves about cats but his idea is Glacier Bay, Worldcat and like that. While they look interesting, alot of deck area for the size, I agree with GFC that monos probably give a better ride and I like the below deck room you get with deep-vs.


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#480429 - 03/03/10 01:09 AM Re: catamarans [Re: softsides]  
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Even Glacier Bay etc, are not fool proof. Cat handling in big water takes a different game plan than a V-hull. All of my boats were too small for a "downstairs", so that is off my radar for play boats. Anyways, here is another thread that may amuse -

http://www.boatingabc.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/55073/1.html

Kelly


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