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#434688 - 09/10/08 07:37 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: deepv]  
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Originally Posted By: deepv
Mark, did you ever get that chart with a red line to post?


From Paradise Point where I launched and picked up the houseboats


and all around 5 fingers


A lot of glass, great boarding water and tubing.

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#434698 - 09/10/08 08:29 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: MarkHB]  
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Did you happen to check out Tinsley Island when you passed by?

It's owned by the St. Francis Yacht Club (S.F.). $$$$!

Yachts of all sizes, and more Rolex's per capita than any other place in the Delta!

You certainly did a great job on conserving fuel with those houseboats.

That is what I love about the Delta. Travel just a few miles downriver and it's like you are in a different part of the world!

#434706 - 09/10/08 09:12 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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My turn for a silly question- where exactly is the Delta?


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#434709 - 09/10/08 09:35 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: 2Suns]  
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Well, Northern CA, north of the Central Valley, essentially from Stockton to the south (Tracy actually, but who has heard of that, hehe), to Sacramento to the north, and west to S.F Bay.

The Delta is mostly comprised of about 1,000 miles of sloughs and rivers and the Sacramento/San Joaquin Rivers, which cargo ships travel on a daily basis to the ports of Sac and Stockton.

The Delta is connected to the S.F Bay via San Pablo Bay and the Carquinez Straits.

It is fresh water to brackish water to salt once you enter the Bay.

This was just the short story.

I could go on for hours. Raised on it and still live on it.

Try it, you'll like it!

#434715 - 09/10/08 10:31 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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Originally Posted By: ABoater
Did you happen to check out Tinsley Island when you passed by?

It's owned by the St. Francis Yacht Club (S.F.). $$$$!

Yachts of all sizes, and more Rolex's per capita than any other place in the Delta!


That is where those big yachts were anchored, I posted on the first page.
Often thought about buying riverfront property up there to build a camp (local city allowing of course) for church youth groups.

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#434719 - 09/10/08 10:49 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: MarkHB]  
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Tinsley is pretty amazing. The quality and quantity of yachts docked there during the summer is impressive.

It is located in line and to the right of the "Medford Island" text on the second chart. It is labeled, but very hard to read.


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#434727 - 09/11/08 12:21 AM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: etyppo]  
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Yeah, you figure with the pull that some of their members should have, their island would have been better labeled on the chart!

funny

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#434728 - 09/11/08 12:23 AM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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The lighthouse there is awesome.

We've stayed on the island quite a few times with our yacht club cruise-ins.

I've also been there during their "stag" cruise.

Party on!

#434843 - 09/11/08 03:28 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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Thanks Mark. So you boarded, etc pretty much all over but not really over Mildred Island?


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#434875 - 09/11/08 06:05 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: 2Suns]  
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Originally Posted By: 2Suns
My turn for a silly question- where exactly is the Delta?


Aboater spelled out the geographic area. The Delta is the confluence of two major rivers (Sacramento and San Joaquin) and some smaller ones (Mokelumne and Calaveras) that drain runoff from the Sierras and flow to the San Francisco bay. Historically they turned into a huge lake every year in the spring when the snow from the mountains melted and the rivers overflowed their banks. The first European to see it from the top of Mt Diablo thought he had found a huge inland lake. The land in the area was incredibly fertile from the annual runoff, and in the mid 19th century, farmers got the bright idea to build levees around islands and farm the land.

The initial attempts at levees (hand built by labor that became available once the transcontinental railway was completed) didn't work very well since the levees failed often. Later levees used dredges that dug up huge amounts of soil, and in the process created many new waterways. There is supposedly 1000 miles of navigable waterway in the area. Some of it consists of natural waterways, and some of it is man-made from the process of digging up the soil to build levees.

The "center" of the delta is the San Joaquin river that runs east-west and has been straightened by making cuts across the natural bends in the river in order to facilitate passage of ocean going ships to the port of Stockton, which created many new islands in the process. (Tinsley is one of those islands). It is somewhat like LOTO in that there is a big main channel with several "arms" that come off the main channel, but the arms are more complicated and are interconnected. http://www.californiadelta.org/map.htm is a map of the area.

A huge % of California's water supply for residential and agricultural use is pumped from the delta (something like 65%?), and there has been a lot of controversy over it lately since pumping has gone up considerably in the last 7-8 years to compensate for decreases in water supplies from other sources. The end result has been several species are near extinction, and the water agencies are under court order to reduce the amount pumped. So far, reserves in reservoirs have prevented big shortages, but things are likely to hit the fan in the next year or two and the Delta will probably become better known at that point. Southern CA is very dependent on the Delta for water. There are two major canals that run along I-5 that were built for the purposes of ferrying water from the Delta to points south.

http://www.californiadelta.org/history.htm has some interesting information about the delta and some of its inhabitants.


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#434880 - 09/11/08 06:18 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: etyppo]  
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Were I'm at we aren't dependent on the delta. We get our water from local wells that tap into run-off from snow fall in the local mountains. I live in one of the few cities in SoCal with a local supply of water.


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#434884 - 09/11/08 06:24 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: deepv]  
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Great info etyppo!


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#434901 - 09/11/08 07:35 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: deepv]  
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Originally Posted By: deepv
Thanks Mark. So you boarded, etc pretty much all over but not really over Mildred Island?









Most folks avoid water sports inside the now flooded island. There are still way too many snags and danger spots to worry about.

Add to that, the quantity of cruisers that have turned it into a nice overnight anchorage, and it wouldn't be too cool to ski, board or tube inside it.

The sloughs right around the immediate area are nice for that, though I prefer Empire Cut, since Latham Slu is a great fishing area, and I'd hate to interrupt the local fisherman with my wake.

I've been on the receiving end of a nuisance wake while trying to fish in a quiet, remote, narrow slu.

But some folks insist on conducting their water sports where it not only doesn't make sense, but is a safety concern as well...

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#434903 - 09/11/08 07:38 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: etyppo]  
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Great post on the Delta, etyppo!

Thanks for taking the time.

We should do a burger at Bob's one day real soon!

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#434940 - 09/11/08 10:53 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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Aboater - sounds good! I'm always up for Bob's and only live about 10 minutes away.


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#434967 - 09/12/08 06:21 AM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: etyppo]  
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Aboater, etyppo- thanks for the geograghy/history lesson! thumb


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#435152 - 09/12/08 09:01 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: ABoater]  
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Any of you Delta boaters have any opinions about the Snug harbor facility for a family outing--or any other suggestions.

thanks

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#441956 - 10/25/08 09:23 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: MarkHB]  
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An update for the floating house in the original pictures:





We some very windy days a couple of weekends ago, and I'd bet it got pushed into the riprap on the levee then. The wind was out of the north, and that is the levee on the south bank of the slough it was on. It was still intact in its original location the last time I went by a month or so ago.


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#455224 - 03/17/09 11:04 AM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: etyppo]  
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#455523 - 03/20/09 05:10 PM Re: A few boats at The Delta [Re: mike343]  
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Mike343,

I have been to Snug Harbor a time or two. I had some friends that had a permanent 5th wheel spot next to the water. They loved it as long as you stayed out of the politics of the place. I have never stayed in the camp ground but stayed on my boat at the dock for a couple of nights. But to stay for a weekend should not be a problem. The spaces are a bit tight but grass and shade trees abound. The dock space is good. One thing I noticed was that the launch ramp is more for smaller boats under 23 feet or so. And launching looked poor to impossible at low tide. It's close to good water skiing water or good fishing though.


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