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#451283 - 01/26/09 07:18 PM Help Selecting a Boat  
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I need a little help. A friend asked me to help her find a boat. Here are her requirements:
1. 28' to 30'- will be used in the Chesapeake
2. Not a fishing boat
3. Day cruising but maybe an occasional overnight
Pretty easy so far, here is the problem - she wants to keep it on her dock and there is usually 4' of water but it does drop to 2' frequently.
In checking most i/o's the draft is about 38" to 40". Outboard seem to draw a bit less. A Grady or Whaler might work but I think of them as fishing boats.
Any other brands come to mind?


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#451286 - 01/26/09 07:47 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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#451291 - 01/26/09 09:02 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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Azure has a 25' OB deckboat with 18" draft -

http://www.azureboats.com/Page.aspx/pageId/2250/pmId/109170/Azure-250-OB.aspx

But that is well short of 28'.

no help Kelly

#451304 - 01/26/09 10:35 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: KCook]  
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In that potentially shallow water ( 2' ) inboards are definitely out unless you go with some kind of lift as Lanier suggested.
I/O's would not be that great either as you would have to kick the outdrives up as high as possible when not in use and it's not good to leave the bellows streatched that far for a long time. Outboards really is the best choice in those conditions because they can be lifted completely clear of the water. Grady Whites and Whalers are both well built boats, especially Whalers, and while not as plush as, say a SeaRay, they're still pretty nice in that size range. Try searching some of the on line used boat listing like BoatTrader, do advanced search and put in your requirements. See what comes up.


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#451311 - 01/27/09 01:08 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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The Chris-Craft Catalina 29 Express has a 21" draft, that's cutting it mighty close!

http://www.chriscraft.com/index.php?src=..._specifications

Kelly

#451313 - 01/27/09 05:14 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: KCook]  
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keep in mind that the 38" - 40" draft figure is with the outdrive(s) down. You will be more in the 2' range with them up.

Might I suggest an outhaul from the dock in order to keep the boat in deeper water (?)

Anyway.

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#451314 - 01/27/09 06:22 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: tpenfield]  
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With a low tide draft of only 2' I would say an O/B power boat would be a safer bet. How about an O/B powered Chesapeake Deadrise boat or a Downeast boat. These hulls are available with a short weelhouse, long wheelhouse, or center console models

In the picture below our boat is in about 2' of water.


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#451321 - 01/27/09 08:34 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: Scotia Mist]  
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Thanks for all the replys.
I thought about a lift and was wondering if that would be a problem if you are coming in at a low tide and now the lift is sitting on the bottom, your water just decreased by 6" or 8".
Adding to the dock would be a time consuming issue because of the permit process and I have not looked to so how far out she would have to go to get to real water. I like Downeast style, but I think she is looking more for something like the Chris Craft.
Thanks for the help. I really love to spend someone else's money.


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#451325 - 01/27/09 09:13 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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Your friend have $$ ?

The Hinckley T29R only draws 18".

http://www.hinckleyyachts.com/

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#451338 - 01/27/09 11:42 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: Philr]  
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Wow
24" depth at low tide and a stiff wind at your bow can't help but think you will be sitting on the ground with that size of boat, I would recommend a different slip unless you want her sitting on the bottom.


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#451353 - 01/27/09 01:19 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: lvikingm]  
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I think Larry raises a very good point. If the boat really needs to be so big, then have an alternate marina or anchorage with more depth available when caught out in unfavorable conditions. Or just get a smaller boat.

echo Kelly

#451367 - 01/27/09 04:21 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: KCook]  
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Don't remember where I read it ( ouch ), but there's an old houseboat up in Idaho somewhere frozen in ice. It was sitting in low water, that got so low the boat rested on the bottom. When the water came back up, the boat didn't--it was so stuck in the mud that it wouldn't float up. Sad to look at, the water level is near the bottoms of the windows, froze solid...

So, there's ONE reason I can think of why NOT to leave a boat in real shallow water...

#451368 - 01/27/09 04:23 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: KCook]  
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I was wondering if the Hinckley would get mentioned. She has money but probably doesn't want to spend that much. Her father lives a few miles away and has about 8' at his dock so there is a "bailout" plan. I agree a smaller boat would be a better option. Thanks for the input.
Gil


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#451377 - 01/27/09 05:51 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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What type of boat is she looking at? I know you said no fishing boat but open bow, cruiser, day cruiser, performance? Like most have said with that little of water you would prob want to go with outboard or move to a new location.


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#451379 - 01/27/09 07:21 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: FCMarine]  
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#451385 - 01/27/09 08:04 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: Andyk2]  
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Andyk2- yes to both. I have worked for her families business for 26 years. Her ex used to keep a twin O/B center console on the dock. I wil have to go down when the weather breaks and look around to see just how much water there is. I don't feel real good about putting a big boat in shallow water. A strong wind out of the SE will push the water away from her dock. A lift would be requred because I don't see her checking dock lines.
Idealy she would like a fast cruising boat with a cuddy, big enough to handle the chop in the bay. Her father had me looking for a Hinckley Picnic about two years ago. We looked at a couple but he decided to buy a new car instead, so he bought a Bentley.


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#451389 - 01/27/09 08:17 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: gmcc]  
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The Sailfish 2660 WAC cabin can be equipped with any item necessary for extended overnights, and includes a full stand up enclosed head and shower. Ample headroom, galley and large vee berth makes for a comfortable stay. Generator, air-conditioning, heat, windlass, removable back drop curtain and outboards that she can raise as she scrapes bottom at times. I believe this model has a vent for AC/heat into the drivers seat area.

Nice of you to help her. usa3


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#451392 - 01/27/09 09:50 PM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: Dreams Float Joe]  
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Check this one out. While I suppose you'd call it a "fishing boat", it's still pretty sharp.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2009-EVERGLADES-BOATS-320EX-94186546

The wide open aft cockpit can be nice for entertaining instead of fishing.


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#451405 - 01/28/09 09:31 AM Re: Help Selecting a Boat [Re: softsides]  
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Thanks. Good options. I need her to look at some pictures and give me some feedback. The Everglades was interesting, but I don't know anything about them. Have to check them out.
Gil


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