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#436759 - 09/24/08 02:27 PM $500 Oil?
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Interesting article... Kind of follows the reset posting. I am not saying I agree with 100%, however there are some mighty interesting points made. Also pay attention to the related graphs on the right.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/15/news/eco...sion=2008092216
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#436761 - 09/24/08 02:46 PM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Bankonit27]
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Very interesting. Also not sure of what we will actually see. I think we are going to see some SIGNIFICANT demand destruction here soon, but I am not well informed on just what kind of impact that will have.

Short-term, capital is once again poised to move to commodities, but ultimately, they don't actually want to take 'possession', so you build in a situation where you will see another sell-off like we witnessed just recently.

However, long-term it may be an excellent 'investment' compared to other options out there.
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#436853 - 09/25/08 06:17 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Justified Too]
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After this $700B is borrowed and blown, the dollar value it going to plunge, IMO. I'm not a gold bug, but it is looking pretty attractive right now, along with silver. I think long term though, the demand for oil will fall and that may keep it down around the $200 mark.
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#436877 - 09/25/08 08:35 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: WaterMutt]
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Originally Posted By: WaterMutt
After this $700B is borrowed and blown, the dollar value it going to plunge, IMO.


Please keep foremost in mind that this is not a $700 Billion authorization, but a $700 Billion REVOLVING LINE OF CREDIT THAT CAN BE USED OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

The total debt to be racked up on this 'card' has NO LIMIT in the current bill.
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#436883 - 09/25/08 08:46 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Finger Lakes Boater]
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Talkin' about dropping rates again. $$ is gonna get hit hard!!
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#436887 - 09/25/08 09:09 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Bankonit27]
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What will happen to interest rates?
There is only so much money available for loans and with an additional $700B being eaten by the govt supply and demand would cause interest rates to rise. Or we could just print more money, but then the dollar gets devalued and oil prices rise and inflation is huge.
there is a very very very thin line that needs to be balanced, and I am afraid of where it's going.
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#436897 - 09/25/08 09:54 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Justification]
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As money continues to get more scarce and lenders unable to lend, look for the cost of money to sky rocket. Not a good time to need a loan...
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#436903 - 09/25/08 10:10 AM Re: $500 Oil? [Re: Finger Lakes Boater]
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Sorry I meant Bernake was talking about lowering rates. Bond rates are dictated by the market, and those have been jumping.
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