I guess IL needs to raise taxes or park admission fees but the people don't want to pay for the services they want to have?
Inflation effects the government too, but park admission fees remain the same as they were several years ago in CA because no one wants to see them raised.
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Wow that is hard to believe. We camped there for many years. It is a great state park. Used to leave a travel trailer at the leprechcan landing and bring it in & out of the wolf creek for several years.
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#432866 - 09/02/0809:38 PMRe: Wolf Creek State Park Closing (Lake Shelbyville)
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They're closing some other state parks in other areas of the state too. Kickapoo comes to mind and a lot of people are upset.
There are a few other state parks/public ramps for lake access. Surprising to see Wolf Creek on the shutdown list as Lake Shelbyville is very popular. We were down there all of Labor Day weekend and the whole area was hopping. The lake was the busiest I've seen it all year. Lake level coming down probably had a lot to do it.
As for Illinois politics, oh boy, they are a bunch of crooks.
I'd probably support higher use fees, but I wouldn't support higher taxes. If cuts must be made, so be it.
For a good facility I'd pay more....problem is Illinois has some of the highest taxes, yet worst services. Like Alaska, our prisons have seen a few Governors, aldermen and legislators.
I reallt think the Wolf Creek situation is a bluff, as the area brings in revenue for surrounding towns. The land is far too valuable to let go to fallow...and private ownwership on the lake is limited to a few Marinas.
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#432890 - 09/02/0810:49 PMRe: Wolf Creek State Park Closing (Lake Shelbyville)
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I camp/boat in Shelby weekly March through December. (Private campground) It is no bluff. Wolf Creek needs the most rehab of any of them (most used over the years). Water and electric services need a total rehab. Septic systems no longer meet code. No money in the Corp's budget. These are the same people who put the high water ramps in place in 1992 and the next year cut funding to keep them cleared out. This spring after the lake went up 12 feet in one weekend they opened the high water ramps which had 1-2 inch diamater trees growing in/on them. We layed off boating for 3 weeks and let "Others" clear the ramp brush with there props. Now we are back to the normal ramps. They are still looking for volinteers to power wash the regular ramps since there is no Corp monies to pay staffers to do it. So the closing of Wolf is no suprise to me. No doubt that ramp will close also.
Thanks for the heads up Bones on this thread !
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There are 382 camp spots in wolf creek - alot of the time it is pretty full. Can't imagine how difficult it will be to get into the remaining camgroungs.
Guess its a good thing Bo Wood's which is a federal campground just under went a major renovation and supposedly they are getting ready to double the size. Doens't make alot of cents but thats government. Expand one & close another ????
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I agree Capt....going to be tough to find a camp site on Memorial day!
Tim/Barb - thanks for the article!
I got a note from the DNR confirming the closing also
From: Glazebrook, Richard [mailto:Richard.Glazebrook@illinois.gov] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: RE: Question about Wolf Creek
Yes it is true. The park will close effective November 1. This is not a seasonal closing. Wolf Creek is one of 11 State Parks being closed for budget considerations.
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Kind of surprises me that IL is closing so many state parks...You guys have a lot more of a tax base than where I live...(ID),
I have on ocassion launched without a formal boat ramp before the seasonal ramps open up on the local resevoirs...just find a spot on the bank where everyone else is launching. Nice to have 4 wheel drive when doing this though...and I always get wet when doing it. Of course, in someplaces, this practice may be illegal. We don't seem to have the weeds that many of the natural lakes in the midwest do as well.
Kind of surprises me that IL is closing so many state parks...You guys have a lot more of a tax base than where I live...(ID)
Yes, but we also have a much larger draw on those taxes than you do. Plus an accepted corrupt political system.
We also don't have many natural lakes, so manmade ones like Shelbyville don't always have gentle sloping banks to allow a launch from anywhere but a ramp.
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I guess IL needs to raise taxes or park admission fees but the people don't want to pay for the services they want to have?
Inflation effects the government too, but park admission fees remain the same as they were several years ago in CA because no one wants to see them raised.
They did raise there rates in Ill. as of after memorial weekend. Went from $15 a night for ele. sites to $20 a night + an extra $10 more on holiday weekends. they are also laying off 39 DNR employees.
I was at Eaglecreek sp Labor day weekend and the campground was only 3/4 full. Normally it would be packed.
The last I heard they're postponing the closures a month
#437419 - 09/28/0808:45 PMRe: Wolf Creek State Park Closing (Lake Shelbyville)
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We have a seasonal site at Sullivan Campground and Marina on Lake Shelbyville. I will say Labor Day weekend was probably the busiest I've seen our campground all summer with overnight sites, It was a crazy weekend. It took me almost a week to recover, my poor liver.
The lake was crowded too. I think the high lake levels kept a lot of people from going to Shelbyville this summer. I know last weekend the lake was higher and a mess again. Logs and crap floating everywhere. I haven't had our boat out since Labor day. Probably done for the year. I think I'll be putting boat in storage within the next few weeks to get my garage back.
Hey Bryant, you got a full sized pic of your rig? It looks as if your 3/4 ton is a little overloaded in the rear!
Don't forget the doubling of boat registration fees in the last 4 years!
NEVER THOUGHT I'D RUN INTO THE WEIGHT POLICE OVER HERE GOODBILLY, THE PICTURE MAKES IT LOOK WORSE THEN IT REALLY WAS,BUT IT STILL WAS SAGGING THE REAR. THAT PIC WAS TAKEN WHEN I FIRST GOT THE NEW CAMPER. BOAT WENT BACK IN THE GARAGE FOR THE WINTER AND THE TRUCK WENT TO THE SPRING SHOP. HARD TO SEE THE DIFF FROM THIS PIC, BUT THE NEW SPRINGS AND SHOCKS GIVE IT A NICE RIDE.
Here's a link to sign a petition to stop the state park closings. http://standingupforillinois.org/saveourparks/ I was camping at Eagle creek this past weekend. it was less than a third full and Wolf creek was full.
#445869 - 11/23/0807:45 AMRe: Wolf Creek State Park Closing (Lake Shelbyville)
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I find it amazing that a park like Wolf Creek that generates monies for the state would close while the others don't. Good buisness man Ol Rod is ? The monies for the substance abuse program would better serve the people as a whole being used for camping.
How much money did Roddie boy WASTE on gates ?
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