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#432048 - 08/27/08 02:28 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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Originally Posted By: seabuddy
This is a 41 model with a waterline lenght of about 38'. Take that times about 1.33 or so, and its displacement speed should be roughly 8 mph. Harden the chines, lighten the boat and shape the hull to a semi-displacement design and power it up and then think older boats of this size tend to go 14 mph at cruise. Re-shape the hull design again into a planning hull design with a pod system drive and they are thinking over 20 mph or even more for a cruising speed.


So..... we basically have a motor yacht that looks like a trawler???

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#432049 - 08/27/08 02:43 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: 2Suns]
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I am not sure that they want to say it that way.

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#432050 - 08/27/08 02:44 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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They do say it's a new world.

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#432089 - 08/27/08 06:41 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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I've admired GB's since I was a kid.

When I retire and sell off a few of my rental units, I plan on investing in a new GB as my final "big" boat.

I have been watching the intro's of the new GB's, and I am not too impressed with their direction of the pod drives.

Time will tell...

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#432112 - 08/27/08 07:43 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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Originally Posted By: seabuddy
I am not sure that they want to say it that way.


What would YOU say, Seabuddy?

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#432170 - 08/28/08 08:40 AM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: 2Suns]
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I'll get alot folks mad with this, but a Grand Banks hull shape has never looked like a North Sea Trawler hull shape to me. I think a smart marketing guy just put that name on it, but after all this time its accepted by the marine folks.

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#432193 - 08/28/08 09:34 AM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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A designer once said that the seakeeping of these pleasure trawlers is NOTHING like a North Sea Trawler. For the very simple reason that the GB, etc, are so much lighter. Physics is physics.

In the market the trawler label is certainly a matter of style above the waterline. Anything goes below the waterline. I expect this new package from GB will find buyers. Who will not be the same buyers who actually potter up to Prince William Sound and back.

I like performance motoryachts. But in my view "yukky" sport fishermen fill this niche better than slapping a trawler cabin together with pod drives.

Oh well,
Kelly

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#432234 - 08/28/08 10:34 AM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: KCook]
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Hull shape and power, too.

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#432251 - 08/28/08 11:03 AM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: seabuddy]
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I think of working fish boats as having much rounder hull shapes.

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#432429 - 08/29/08 05:32 AM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: KCook]
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Originally Posted By: KCook
A designer once said that the seakeeping of these pleasure trawlers is NOTHING like a North Sea Trawler. For the very simple reason that the GB, etc, are so much lighter. Physics is physics.

In the market the trawler label is certainly a matter of style above the waterline. Anything goes below the waterline. I expect this new package from GB will find buyers. Who will not be the same buyers who actually potter up to Prince William Sound and back.

I like performance motoryachts. But in my view "yukky" sport fishermen fill this niche better than slapping a trawler cabin together with pod drives.

Oh well,
Kelly


I'll agree with that.

I always thought that one of the benefits of a trawler was fuel economy. I'll make an assumption and say that this twin engined trawler doing 24 kts is not going to get the same economy as the same boat with a small diesel doing 10-12 kts.

So what's next? Take a 45 ft MY, tweak the hull a couple of times and throw in a 180hp single screw diesel? Would that still be called a MY?

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#432449 - 08/29/08 12:50 PM Re: New Grand Banks trawler only pod drive...wow! [Re: 2Suns]
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I recall the trend of going towards "more power" for GB started back in the early 90's when they introduced the twin Cats in their 42'er.

They praised its speed and agility for quite some time.

Back in the early to mid 80's, Sea Ray took an existing 36' hull and put a different cabin on it and equpped it with twin 4 cyls and introduced it as the 36T. The T was for trawler.

They actually sold a few...

The all-new '82 Bayliner 32 was called an Explorer (they had a series of them) and were equipped with twin 4 cyl Volvo i/o's.

Again, with the "trawler" theme to keep up with the market "changes".

That same mold was used well into the mid 90's and was equipped with twin gas and diesel inboards and was called one of their Motoryacht line.

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