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#431094 - 08/22/08 04:13 PM
Re: Lost wireless connection, MAC addy changed?
[Re: athiker]
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Admiral
Registered: 06/11/05
Posts: 2371
Loc: Oxnard, CA
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Jeez admin, what do you have turned ON?? Sounds like you're saying that if you don't have/use WPA, then don't bother with anything... I'm of the philosophy that I do what I can, using as many reasonable measures and features at my disposal, but like anything else, know that if they want in, they'll get in. Like locking my car, not too effective, but all I got. Slap a club on it, and a little bit more deterence, add an audio alarm indicator (red light) and a little bit more. Although hoping that all these deter them to another potential 'easier' victim, but knowing that if they really want it they'll get it.... Leaving everything open/off as being useless, doesn't strike me as prudent...
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#431411 - 08/25/08 04:44 AM
Re: Lost wireless connection, MAC addy changed?
[Re: Parrott_head]
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Admiral
Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 2613
Loc: Cyberland
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I sure hope the author of that article is not getting paid to be a wireless security "geek". He is only parroting the same junk that many others do who know next to nothing about it. Some good comments at least. The bad ones are also good in as much as they provide the set-up for the good ones. One of the best comments is this one... (of course I think so, this person is "parroting" my point nicely  )
kamikaze.cockroach Aug 20, 2008 at 6:47 am
When will people learn. #2-4 and Corey H’s suggestion are completely useless for security and here’s why.
If you don’t have WPA and a good long passphrase, any noob can download airsnort and: 1) Find your SSID, hidden or not. 2) Find the MAC addresses of all your wireless devices and spoof any one. 3) Find your gateway IP no matter what IP range you use.
Trust me, I’ve done this many times for penetration testing. #2-4 will only make it much harder for you to add new devices to your network they offer no security beyond WPA whatsoever. In fact, they add a false sense of security which is worse. As long as you have a good WPA passphrase it doesn’t matter if your neighbors know all the rest of the info, it’s useless.
To Corey, what you’re doing is not only not a good idea, it breaks IP routing. You can’t just choose a random address range. 192.168 etc. are used for a reason. Those are private IP ranges. If you choose a random IP range that happens to belong to Google, you won’t be able to access Google since your IP routing table won’t use the gateway for that range. Also, it’s trivial for someone to determine your gateway address if they’re already connected to your WiFi. Lastly, they don’t need to know YOUR DNS addresses, they can use ANY DNS address.
To those who say “I don’t care if someone uses my connection”, have you thought about this: They could be downloading MP3s, movies, porn etc. which can land you in jail and cost you tens of thousands in legal fees. They could also be seeding viruses, launching DDoS attacks or even capturing your emails and gathering information for a social engineering attack.
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#431502 - 08/25/08 11:23 AM
Re: Lost wireless connection, MAC addy changed?
[Re: Parrott_head]
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Admiral
Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 2454
Loc: Lake Norman, NC
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Again, just following along here...not an expert by any means...but I like Netgear as well. My Dad and I have both used the Netgear WPN802. He bought retail and I bought refurbed on eBay. My Dad is less computer savvy than me and had no problem getting set up. I bought from these guys. I bid on quite a few and paid less than $20 before shipping. Looks like they raised shipping...it was 9.95. They seem to have a constant supply of Buy It Now and regular auctions so one can be patient...mine did have the install CD...but some may not...all is available from Netgear website though. It works well in my house from lower left first floor to upper right 2nd floor with no problems. This is not the latest and greatest 802.11n standard however...it is compatible w/ b and g. Fast enough for general surfing IMO. My only previous experience has been w/ D-Link. I have used both a "load-balancing" router to combine my DSL and Cable internet service and a wireless router. I found the interfaces more cumbersome and in the end both failed to deliver either by my error or the router's. From reading others' comments re: the load balancing router...I wasn't alone. In general I've been told its better to use one company for all components of a network system if possible. Only one phone number to call (and wait on hold) and less likely to be told by support that its the other company's product at fault. What Netgear router are you using now? "The best security features"...it sounds like the WPA passcode is pretty much all you can hang your hat on for a basic home setup no matter which router you use?  I do remember after trying a few different setups messing around w/ a thumbdrive where you had to install a very long "key" on each computer w/ the D-Link router. I don't remember what security standard that was. It did work for a while, and seemed like one of the securest ways to go since the "key" was much more complex than a typical passcode, don't really know what happened to make it stop working, but it did.  The D-Link model I had (DI-524) never had the range I needed anyway so I bought the Netgear. Topic Drift: Admin or others know a moderate cost load-balancing router to recommend? I have the DI-LB604 which acts like it is balancing the load when looking at the router stats, but when one service is interrupted I still momentarily lose my internet service and my VPN is disconnected. I don't really need my load balanced I guess, but uninterrupted service in the event either DSL or cable service is disrupted.
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