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#422135 - 07/16/08 08:05 AM Bunning for President!
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At yesterday's Humphrey Hawkins hearings, we FINALLY had a voice of sanity from the US Govmt. Senator Bunning was awesome. I've faxed him a personal note of thanks. Consider adding your voice by fax or email.

His opening commentary:

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know we have a lot of ground to cover today, but I want to say a few things on the topic of this hearing and of the next.

First, on monetary policy, I am deeply concerned about what the Fed has done in the last year and in the last decade. Chairman Greenspan’s easy money the late nineties and then following the tech bust inflated the housing bubble and created the mess we are in today. Chairman Bernanke’s easy money in the last year has undermined the dollar and sent oil to new record highs every few days, and almost doubling since the rate cuts started. Inflation is here and it is hurting average Americans.

Second, the Fed is asking for more power. But the Fed has proven they can not be trusted with the power they have. They get it wrong, do not use it, or stretch it further than it was ever supposed to go. As I said a moment ago, their monetary policy is a leading cause of the mess we are in. As regulators, it took them until yesterday to use power we gave them in 1994 to regulate all mortgage lenders. And they stretched their authority to buy 29 billion dollars of Bear Stearns assets so J.P. Morgan could buy Bear at a steep discount.

Now the Fed wants to be the systemic risk regulator. But the Fed is the systemic risk. Giving the Fed more power is like giving the neighborhood kid who broke your window playing baseball in the street a bigger bat and thinking that will fix the problem. I am not going to go along with that and will use all my powers as a Senator to stop any new powers going to the Fed. Instead, we should give them less to do so they can do it right, either by taking away their monetary policy responsibility or by requiring them to focus only on inflation.

Third and finally, since I expect we will try to get right to questions in the next hearing, let me say a few words about the G.S.E. bailout plan. When I picked up my newspaper yesterday, I thought I woke up in France. But no, it turns out socialism is alive and well in America. The Treasury Secretary is asking for a blank check to buy as much Fannie and Freddie debt or equity as he wants. The Fed’s purchase of Bear Stearns’ assets was amateur socialism compared to this.

And for this unprecedented intervention in the markets what assurances do we get that it will not happen again? None. We are in the process of passing a stronger regulator for the G.S.E.s, and that is important, but it allows them to continue in the current form. If they really do fail, should we let them go back to what they were doing before?

I will close with this question Mr. Chairman. Given what the Fed and Treasury did with Bear Stearns, and given what we are talking about here today, I have to wonder what the next government intervention in private enterprise will be. More importantly, where does it stop?
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#422168 - 07/16/08 11:05 AM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: Finger Lakes Boater]
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Here Here.
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#422170 - 07/16/08 11:13 AM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: Finger Lakes Boater]
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But FLB, Socialism is exactly what 50% of the major political parties in this country want. And about 25% of the population as a whole (maybe as high as 50%) seem to want it too. They are calling it different things, but all this "social reform" and "change" just means "more government control of our lives". Well to get total control, you have to control our money and all of our businesses.
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#422227 - 07/16/08 06:21 PM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: BillyB]
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Senator Bunning may in fact be calling a spade a spade, but that's only half the story. He needs to have senate hearing on CONGRESS to find out who led the charge to loosen guidelines in the first place. "We must make homeownership available to more Americans". What a crock! 580 FICO and 100% financing? 600 FICO and 100% NO-DOC?
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#422231 - 07/16/08 06:40 PM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: Nu2BoatN]
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Glass Steagal was deconstructed before our very eyes. Testimony before the senate banking committee from experts on the S&L debacle testified clearly that dismantling the banking restrictions would create a credit disaster. Nobody listened. A bunch of banksters got filthy rich. And you're getting the bill right now.

HOW IT HAPPENED IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD. The sad fact is that nobody cared.
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#422352 - 07/17/08 10:15 AM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: Finger Lakes Boater]
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I thought that was totally wrong in 1999, but who was I to protest in the face of big money campaign contributors?
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#422353 - 07/17/08 10:15 AM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: deepv]
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Congress loosened the requirements....
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#422355 - 07/17/08 10:19 AM Re: Bunning for President! [Re: deepv]
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http://www.gata.org/node/5467

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Glass-Steagal might have kept the subprime mess more manageable
Submitted by cpowell on Sat, 2007-09-08 23:41. Section: Daily Dispatches
By Thomas Kostigen
MarketWatch.com
Friday, September 7, 2007

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/would-glass-steagall-save-day-cred...

SANTA MONICA, Calif. -- Time was when banks and brokerages were separate entities, banned from uniting for fear of conflicts of interest, a financial meltdown, a monopoly on the markets, all of these things.

In 1999, the law banning brokerages and banks from marrying one another -- the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 -- was lifted, and voila, the financial supermarket has grown to be the places we know as Citigroup, UBS, Deutsche Bank, et al.

But now that banks seemingly have stumbled over their bad mortgages, it's worth asking whether the fallout would be wreaking so much havoc on the rest of the financial markets had Glass-Steagall been kept in place.

Diversity has always been the pathway to lowering risk. And Glass-Steagall kept diversity in place by separating the financial powers that be: banks and brokerages.

Glass-Steagall was passed by Congress to prohibit banks from owning full-service brokerage firms and vice versa so investment banking activities, such as underwriting corporate or municipal securities, couldn't be called into question and also to insulate bank depositors from the risks of a stock market collapse such as the one that precipitated the Great Depression.

But as banks increasingly encroached upon the securities business by offering discount trades and mutual funds, the securities industry cried foul. So in that telling year of 1999, the prohibition ended and financial giants swooped in. Citigroup led the way and others followed. We saw Smith Barney, Salomon Brothers, PaineWebber and lots of other well-known brokerage brands gobbled up.

At brokerage firms there are supposed to be Chinese walls that separate investment banking from trading and research activities. These separations are supposed to prevent dealmakers from pressuring their colleague analysts to give better results to clients, all in the name of increasing their mutual bottom line.

Well, we saw how well these walls held up during the heyday of the dot-com era when ridiculously high estimates were placed on corporations that happened to be underwritten by the same firm that was also trading its securities. When these walls were placed within their new bank homes, cracks appeared and -- it looks ever so apparent -- ignored.

No one really questioned the new fad of collateralizing bank mortgage debt into different types of financial instruments and selling them through a different arm of the same institution. They are now.

I'm not saying that Glass-Steagall would have made a difference to the evolution of the collateralized debt obligations. But it might have helped identify and isolated the damage.

When banks are being scrutinized and subject to due diligence by third-party securities analysts more questions are raised than when the scrutiny is by people who share the same cafeteria. Besides, fees, deals and the like would all be subject to salesmanship, which means people would be hammering prices and questioning things much more to increase their own profit -- not working together to increase their shared bonus pool.

Glass-Steagall would have at least provided what the first of its names portends: transparency. And that is best accomplished when outsiders are peering in. When every one is on the inside looking out, they have the same view. That isn't good because then you can't see things coming (or falling) and everyone is subject to the roof caving in.

Congress is now investigating the subprime mortgage debacle. Lawmakers are looking at tightening lending rules, holding secondary debt buyers responsible for abusive practices and, on a positive note, even bailing out some homeowners.

These are Band-Aid measures, however, that won't patch what's broken: the system of conflicts that arise when sellers, salesmen and evaluators are all on the same team.

Glass-Steagall forced separation. Something like it, where conflicts and losses can be mitigated, should be considered again.


If this was considered a good idea in 1933 in the wake of the previous great depression, why was it thought to not be such a good idea before the next GREAT DEPRESSION?

It was toughted as making U.S. Financial Institutions more competetive on a global scale. Why do they need to compete with banana republics again?
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