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#420953 - 07/11/08 03:40 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: ABoater]
Al Offline
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There is a Chris Craft in our marina that has a shortie flybridge quite similar to Seabuddy's photo, although it does have two seats.
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#420996 - 07/11/08 08:06 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: Al]
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Are we talking about boats that, in order of placement, have the boat bottom, engines, full headroom in the main cabin, then the Fly Bridge...

... or like alot of smaller boats that locate the engines under the aft cockpit so they are not adding to the Fly Bridge floor height with the engines, etc... such that its the boat bottom, full height and headroom in the main cabin next, and then the Fly Bridge or...

...Less than 7' main cabin headroom?

...or some combo that positions the Fly Bridge such that it submurgies (sp) into, in back of, or front of, the main salon?

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#420997 - 07/11/08 08:21 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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Flybridges are commonly found on both Aft Cabin and Convertible/Sedan style boats.

If you compare BToran's boat and mine, the boat's hull comes out of the same identical mold, but the upper half is a different mold.

His boat has the engines at the rear, under the aft cockpit, where mine has the engines mid-ships, under the salon.

This provides room in the aft cabin for my boat without it being overly high.

Inside, I have about 6'2" of head room in the salon, and I believe Bruce's boat is 6'3". But one spot in my boat, from the floor of the galley to the ceiling, is over 8ft high. That light bulb up there is a pain to change. In a cramped boat, its almost cathedral like.

To accommodate the different interior, the cabin in Bruce's boat is a bit longer, which gives him a slightly longer flybridge.

On the other hand, some of the "flybridge" boats (like mine) do not have a lower helm. But it was an option. So I think one distinction might be that a flybridge is a second helm, regardless of whether one actually exists on that particular model or not (Bruce has a lower helm, I think).

Some of the newer aft cabins have a flybridge I suppose, but it kind of melts into the aft porch. But those boats were never intended to have a lower helm, so I am not sure if I would call it a flybridge or not. An example of this boat is a Cruisers 395/415, of which there is one at our dock. If you take down all of the canvas (and if it didn't have a hard top), I suppose it looks like it has a flybridge.

So I suppose it depends on your thought as to what a flybridge is.
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#421013 - 07/11/08 09:30 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: Al]
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So your engine and his engines different locations within the hull (yours under the main salon and his under the cockpit out back) allow for about a 3' lower-to-the-water flybridge in the same hull, which lowers the center of gravity, which should allow for more weight up there per amount of tippy-ness.

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#421015 - 07/11/08 09:33 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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#421016 - 07/11/08 09:33 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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Photo of a boat for sale.

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#421017 - 07/11/08 09:38 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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#421025 - 07/11/08 10:05 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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Historic ad for Skipjack.

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#421029 - 07/11/08 10:32 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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"Historic"?

I almost bought a new one years ago. I guess I'm getting old...

Skipjack's were also sold under the Wellcraft name for a few years.

I have a few of both the Skipjack and Wellcraft versions of factory brochures in my catalog/brochure collection.

Skippy recently brought back the 24' Open, which is the same hull as the flying bridge pictured above. It comes std with the diesel I/O. It starts out around $90K...

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#421033 - 07/11/08 10:52 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: ABoater]
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More their words than mine.

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#421037 - 07/11/08 11:01 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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I do not remember Wellcraft sharing anything with Skipjack other than the hull of their Step-lift 20'.

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#421039 - 07/11/08 11:04 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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#421040 - 07/11/08 11:05 AM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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I thought this was the Skipjack version.

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#421090 - 07/11/08 12:44 PM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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Originally Posted By: seabuddy
I do not remember Wellcraft sharing anything with Skipjack other than the hull of their Step-lift 20'.






Yeah, a few models.

They even used the same pics that you posted of the yellow flybridge in the Wellcraft brochure.

But it showed the Wellcraft stickers on the hull...

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#421091 - 07/11/08 12:48 PM Re: Flying Bridge [Re: seabuddy]
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Originally Posted By: seabuddy
I thought this was the Skipjack version.








Yep, it is.

Wellcraft used a few of the Skippy models.

The pic of the 24 Open is a newer model than that of the yellow flybridge, and is the same mold as the new version sold today.

Check out the strakes on the hull...

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