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#418740 - 07/01/08 07:59 PM
Re: Auto Gurus - need an opinion
[Re: Bonesian]
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Admiral
Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 3704
Loc: NJ
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What the F happened to my complete post? Who edited my first response AND WHY? There were no curse words and I explained to Billy that he was wrong!! NE Illinois DOES emission tests! What's yer problem?????
What's up with you tight-arses? At least have the coconuts to "show" that you've edited someone elses post/reply. Don't just edit it w/o a clearly stated reason. And also state who did the editing please....
I'm a frickin American! I'll give 10 to 1 odds that it was the over all tone of your post that got it zapped. Very often your posts leave the reader with a bad feeling. No different than the way the post I quoted does. Dancing around using curse words and low class english. How ever wrong Billyb might be, has brougt a lot to the board and helps a lot of members with detailed information, and thus even if wrong, your " tone " may have been over the line. Think about it.
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#418741 - 07/01/08 07:59 PM
Re: Auto Gurus - need an opinion
[Re: D-Rod]
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Registered: 03/16/03
Posts: 2765
Loc: Central New York
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The Grim Reaper cometh for your computer, WD.
The dreaded P0601 means one thing only. And as your local guy found out, there are very few non-dealers that can do that job because of the programming issue.
Don't even think about a used one, because if the used one has a mismatched security system, you will then need a new computer and a new BCM (and programming), if you plug it in and try to start it.
As far as letting it go, the biggest pitfall that I see is the fact that the MIL is on for what you believe to be a P0601. If another problem arises that is more important, you'll never know it unless you periodically scan, which really isn't practical.
We FINALLY got our IDS system up and running last night. Had to burn the midnight oil to do it. IDS is what the Ford dealers use for 1996-current Ford, Mazda and Jag. We are now the only independent repair shop in the area that has the capability of doing exactly what the Ford dealers can do, including programming modules for new installs and reflashing for updated software. I am useless setting this stuff up (I'm pretty good with a test light though!), so I swept the floors while my wife and a friend (Vetronix Rep) loaded the programs on my shop PC and a Samsung Q1 Ultra tablet for portability. I happened to have a 02 Sable in with an intermittent misfire. Since ever, I have never had the capability to view live misfires on ANY Ford product. Last night changed all that and it was SO COOL to finally be able to pick up an intermittent Ford misfire!
This stuff is getting costly and complicated to keep up with.
WD, keep us posted as to the Grand Finale. $600 is the going rate for your computer, labor and programming.
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2002 Cobalt 226 350 MPI B1
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#418753 - 07/01/08 08:16 PM
Re: Auto Gurus - need an opinion
[Re: cny boater]
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Admiral
Registered: 01/12/03
Posts: 5422
Loc: Rockford, Michigan
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The Grim Reaper cometh for your computer, WD.
The dreaded P0601 means one thing only. And as your local guy found out, there are very few non-dealers that can do that job because of the programming issue.
Don't even think about a used one, because if the used one has a mismatched security system, you will then need a new computer and a new BCM (and programming), if you plug it in and try to start it.
As far as letting it go, the biggest pitfall that I see is the fact that the MIL is on for what you believe to be a P0601. If another problem arises that is more important, you'll never know it unless you periodically scan, which really isn't practical.
We FINALLY got our IDS system up and running last night. Had to burn the midnight oil to do it. IDS is what the Ford dealers use for 1996-current Ford, Mazda and Jag. We are now the only independent repair shop in the area that has the capability of doing exactly what the Ford dealers can do, including programming modules for new installs and reflashing for updated software. I am useless setting this stuff up (I'm pretty good with a test light though!), so I swept the floors while my wife and a friend (Vetronix Rep) loaded the programs on my shop PC and a Samsung Q1 Ultra tablet for portability. I happened to have a 02 Sable in with an intermittent misfire. Since ever, I have never had the capability to view live misfires on ANY Ford product. Last night changed all that and it was SO COOL to finally be able to pick up an intermittent Ford misfire!
This stuff is getting costly and complicated to keep up with.
WD, keep us posted as to the Grand Finale. $600 is the going rate for your computer, labor and programming. Cny...thanks for the info sir  . Now the $1,000,000 question...if it were you...would you drive with it?
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 2000 Four Winns 230 - the new Wet Doggg
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Heck even the "Welcome to Illinois" signs on the Interstates depicted Chicago on one side, a dirt road down the middle (I80?) and then a corn field. 
So I was being facetious when I said "Illinois" doesn't have emissions testing. Just "Chicagoland".
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