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#418742 - 07/01/08 08:02 PM when they dont take care - progress Pictures
bradyf Offline
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of things that they own, and take a short cut to solve a problem, this is what happens...

I knew that we were going to need to do some work on the camper and I also new that it had some previous water damage. I knew that the "cap" sides werea little on the TLC side but I did not know that they were, esentially non existant..

I took the cap off the camper after I noticed that the sides were starting to come apart from each other and what I found was that the aluminum cladding was the only thing keeping the top on.
(if you own one of these and decide to do this, be advised to take care in securing the spring loaded armatures - they are under tension when its in the down position.. I now know this..and it was a close call)

any way, heres what I found..









In this pic, there is litterally NO wood behind the cladding..



I have it all apart now and am starting to get it back together, hopefully for the weekend coming up..

more to come..

keepin mind that I knew things were wrong with it and I knew that I was going to need to work on it AND, that I am NOT upset about this at all..


Edited by bradyf (07/04/08 07:53 AM)
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#418746 - 07/01/08 08:06 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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Definitely a common problem on older popups.

Have you also checked underneath on the flooring?
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#418747 - 07/01/08 08:09 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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BTW - we saw an older popup on our vacation trip that must've had several tenting problems. The owners and raised the roof, removed all the tenting and closed in the "box" with roof tin. No bunkends, just the box, roof and tin in between. I'm guessing they just towed it like a TT with roof in raised position. Not sure what amenities they had in the little 7 X 10 (or 12) ft box.
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#418751 - 07/01/08 08:15 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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this thing has been taken apart before, the trim on the top was cut on one side and you would not believe the amount of caulking that was applied to various areas like corners.

the floor is in great shape!! there will be some other areas that I will work on in the winter but not that big of a deal. the top is what I was the most worried about cuz the arms on it were cuttin holes in the aluminum and just flopping around.

that sounds like the ol hillbilly special!!!
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#418752 - 07/01/08 08:16 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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I'm sure that project is almost a welcome sight after the A/C saga... whistle
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#418756 - 07/01/08 08:18 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: cny boater]
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Originally Posted By: cny boater
I'm sure that project is almost a welcome sight after the A/C saga... whistle


BIG TIME!!!!! LOL funny
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#418761 - 07/01/08 08:26 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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When putting it together, use butyl/putty tape and Dicor self-leveling RV caulk. There's also a product called Eternabond which is a tape product that is supposed to stick to anything.
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#418766 - 07/01/08 08:38 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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for the trim??

I need to put a ceiling into it as well so I was thinking about a rubber cement product or something..
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#418767 - 07/01/08 08:38 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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Brady, we all know your daughter is as cute as a whip -- and now we know where she got her looks!!
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#418773 - 07/01/08 08:44 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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Originally Posted By: bradyf
for the trim??

I need to put a ceiling into it as well so I was thinking about a rubber cement product or something..



For the seams, trim, exterior hardware (latches, etc).

For ceiling...a friend bought an $300 TT that he leaves on some undeveloped property. He bought that fabric type covered paneling similar to what comes in RV's now and nailed it on to replace ceiling from water damage.
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#418948 - 07/02/08 12:05 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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Originally Posted By: cny boater
Brady, we all know your daughter is as cute as a whip -- and now we know where she got her looks!!


hehehe, I look at that picture and it looks like the admiral is stoned.. hehehe, cute but stoned.. funny


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For ceiling...a friend bought an $300 TT that he leaves on some undeveloped property. He bought that fabric type covered paneling similar to what comes in RV's now and nailed it on to replace ceiling from water damage.


I know of what you speak, I was thinking about glueing a new piece of 1/4" panel back up as I stripped it clean down to the foam board. what ya'll think about an adheasive for that so that it dont sag?
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#418981 - 07/02/08 01:46 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: cny boater]
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Originally Posted By: cny boater
Brady, we all know your daughter is as cute as a whip -- and now we know where she got her looks!!


I will tell her you said that though..
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#418989 - 07/02/08 02:06 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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Originally Posted By: bradyf
I know of what you speak, I was thinking about glueing a new piece of 1/4" panel back up as I stripped it clean down to the foam board. what ya'll think about an adheasive for that so that it dont sag?





3m Makes a headliner adhesive.
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#418993 - 07/02/08 02:14 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: WaterMutt]
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Is she stoned?
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#419025 - 07/02/08 05:25 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: deepv]
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Originally Posted By: deepv
Is she stoned?


She married him, didn't she? grin
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#419075 - 07/02/08 07:44 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: jtheile]
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Originally Posted By: jtheile
Originally Posted By: deepv
Is she stoned?


She married him, didn't she? grin


Hey!!! frown crying funny
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#419351 - 07/04/08 08:33 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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the boards were so rotten that they came out like mulch!!



I took the panel off the cieling as well, the corners were all rotted as well.



I had to place a 1 x 1 3/4 piece around the perimeter on the cieling.



I had to glue a new panel on the polystyrene with PL 300 and Ployurethane on the metal. then screwed what I could.



Today I will drill the holes for the lighting and all the brackets. Hopefully I will get most of it done today, but we wont be using it tonight for the 4th.

happy 4th of July!!
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#419498 - 07/05/08 08:21 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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Bradyf,
Looks like a nice project to be working on. I really like the new pic of the little gal and her mommy. Boy can I tell where she gets the good looks from!! Nice pic of the two.

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#419718 - 07/06/08 08:46 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: Ladybugskater]
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Thanks for the update of the camper Brady.
Looks like you are hard at it with the rebuild thumb
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#419720 - 07/06/08 08:56 PM Re: when they dont take care [Re: Lambert Laker]
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Originally Posted By: Lambert Laker
Thanks for the update of the camper Brady.
Looks like you are hard at it with the rebuild thumb


What he said laugh
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#419801 - 07/07/08 08:29 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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OMG!!!!

My mom just called and told me that my Uncle is thinking about selling his pop up!!!!! ouch

I even asked her prior to buying this one if he was selling it or if he would consider it. She said "he wouldnt sell that thing"...

His is in great shape and doesnt need a new canvas ($800+)

I dont know what to do here....all that work into this one, (it will need a canvas next year) and now I could buy his for "fairly" cheap and it does not need any "real" work!!!

I need to talk to the admiral.. idn ouch
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#419803 - 07/07/08 08:33 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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Ain't that how it always goes!
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#419804 - 07/07/08 08:36 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: HotByte]
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talk about irony! I am at a major confusled point right now
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#419813 - 07/07/08 09:06 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: bradyf]
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If the numbers work, get this one back together and sell it, then buy your uncle's.
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#419820 - 07/07/08 09:16 AM Re: when they dont take care [Re: On Holiday]
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better news now, I just sppoke with my Uncle and his needs work just like ours. now I dont feel as bad...

six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other I guess..
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