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#419248 - 07/03/08 01:47 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas [Re: On Holiday]
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I view an Acura forum on which one of the participants is the used car manager for an Acura dealer. He posted the following:

Today's amusing deal, not at my store tho...friend of mine who is the General Sales Manager at a Toyota store mentioned this. To be fair, they even asked the customer if they were sure they wanted to do this...
Customer has a 2 year old Expedition XLT, 24k miles, leather, moonroof, nice shape, worth about $12k wholesale right now as it does have Nav + RES.

Customer owes, get this, $30,000 or so on it.

Customer decides that they NEED a Prius. Customer wants to go from 15mpg to 40mpg. Customer drives 1k miles per month. At $5/Gallon that means 15mpg is a gas bill of $330 a month versus $125/mo with the Prius.

So they will save $205/mo by buying a Prius, IF GAS WAS $5 A GALLON (It isn't, it's about $3.90 where they are).

Since new Priuses are on the "Wait 6 months to pay $1k+ over sticker" they pay $26,995 and buy an 07 with 26k miles on it.

The Prius only has a retail Value of $23k per NADA (Granted they are doing more than that at auction right now) so the Bank will only loan about $29k on the Prius.

Customer writes a home equity check for the $18k negative equity and finances the Prius.

So, they were paying $500 or so a month to lease the Expedition, now they are paying over $550/mo to buy the Prius. On top of that, they are on, if I heard correctly, a 15 year HELOC at 6.75%. That's $159.28 FOR FIFTEEN YEARS assuming I heard correctly.

So their $500 payment becomes $709.28+ to save $205/mo on gasoline.
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#419254 - 07/03/08 02:05 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas [Re: wasjr]
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Originally Posted By: wasjr
I view an Acura forum on which one of the participants is the used car manager for an Acura dealer. He posted the following:

Today's amusing deal, not at my store tho...friend of mine who is the General Sales Manager at a Toyota store mentioned this. To be fair, they even asked the customer if they were sure they wanted to do this...
Customer has a 2 year old Expedition XLT, 24k miles, leather, moonroof, nice shape, worth about $12k wholesale right now as it does have Nav + RES.

Customer owes, get this, $30,000 or so on it.

Customer decides that they NEED a Prius. Customer wants to go from 15mpg to 40mpg. Customer drives 1k miles per month. At $5/Gallon that means 15mpg is a gas bill of $330 a month versus $125/mo with the Prius.

So they will save $205/mo by buying a Prius, IF GAS WAS $5 A GALLON (It isn't, it's about $3.90 where they are).

Since new Priuses are on the "Wait 6 months to pay $1k+ over sticker" they pay $26,995 and buy an 07 with 26k miles on it.

The Prius only has a retail Value of $23k per NADA (Granted they are doing more than that at auction right now) so the Bank will only loan about $29k on the Prius.

Customer writes a home equity check for the $18k negative equity and finances the Prius.

So, they were paying $500 or so a month to lease the Expedition, now they are paying over $550/mo to buy the Prius. On top of that, they are on, if I heard correctly, a 15 year HELOC at 6.75%. That's $159.28 FOR FIFTEEN YEARS assuming I heard correctly.

So their $500 payment becomes $709.28+ to save $205/mo on gasoline.


My gosh are people really that stupid?

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#419256 - 07/03/08 02:12 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas [Re: Indyboater]
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#419271 - 07/03/08 03:18 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas [Re: Philr]
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There is a penalty paid for the inability to do simple math...rolleyes
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#419272 - 07/03/08 03:23 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas [Re: Philr]
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Yes, some people are that stupid.
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#419275 - 07/03/08 04:27 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas) [Re: WaterMutt]
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Originally Posted By: WaterMutt
We've really started pulling in the reigns across the board. Between gas, food, and saving for heating oil, there is less and less to go around. We have a "date" planned for this weekend as my wife got an end of year gift certificate.
There is little we can do to reduce fuel consumption at this point.


What does that mean?
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#419276 - 07/03/08 04:40 PM Re: Getting near the 'Hurting' point (price of gas) [Re: deepv]
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I really haven't changed anything although we did buy a Matrix for my son's 16th birthday two months ago and he won't be 16 for 50 more days. Until then, I am driving it to work (9 miles round trip. The gas cost savings on driving this car will bearly defrey the cost of the insurance and doesn't even come close to the cost of buying the car. If this weren't the case, I'd be driving my truck as usual and will be driving it again in August.

Basically we've cut out going out to dinner once in a while... Not even noticible... Not even once a month.
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