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#417220 - 06/26/08 09:17 AM A new experience while driving my tow vehicle
Waterdog Offline
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So, this is a new one for me. On the way to work last week in my F150 Supercrew tow vehicle/daily driver, I passed a campus bus stop. Two or three people there waiting on the bus. As I drive by, I get a "thumbs down". Hmmm, but didn't really think much else about it.

Monday of this week, pass the same bus stop on my way in and I get another thumbs down. So, after I park, I give the truck a once over thinking maybe something is wrong. Don't see anything out of the ordinary. I can't recall for certain if it was the same girl and guy that gave me the first thumbs down, but I don't think so.

Fast forward to this morning. Driving by the bus stop and not only do I get the thumbs down, but also a "boooo" and "gas hog" yelled at me. These folks were definitely not the same as before. The ring leader this time was a mid-20s girl. She just about ran out in the road to make sure I saw her.

So, should I have picked her up and taken her to her destination on campus? If I did pick her up, should I have let her ride in the cab? Would the bed have been more appropriate for her? Or, should I have just swerved and run her over and put her out of her misery?
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#417222 - 06/26/08 09:22 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Waterdog]
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Sounds like some good points to me...like Death Race 2000 laugh laugh laugh
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#417238 - 06/26/08 09:36 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: HotByte]
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Registered: 10/02/06
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Loc: Oldsmar FL
I had a lady in a Prius sitting beside me at a traffic light motion for me to roll my window down, she was on the passenger side of me so it was hard for me to even see her. Anyway, she proceeds to tell me how I should be ashamed of myself for driving a vehicle that was destroying her world. I chuckled and started to roll the window up as she was spewing some other crap, then I decided to respond.

My first thought was to respond with a 9mm blast accross her bow with a kind shut up and mind your own business to follow, but I thought better of that. I rolled the window back down and proceeded to tell her that the day her Prius could tow my boat, haul all the stuff that I have in the bed of the truck, tow my other gas guzzling hobbies and their parts and pieces, and keep my family safe when some other big gas guzzler tries to run them over that I would certainly consider buying one. Then I said not really and rolled up the window (I'm not quoting myself, that is as close as I can get from memory). I would have kept going with some comments on how ugly the car was, and maybe even some personal attacks on her beauty (or lack thereoff), but the light turned green, and which time I floored the gas guzzler for good measure.
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#417258 - 06/26/08 10:08 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: CMJ]
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You should have asked her how much impact her lead batteries have on your world.
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#417259 - 06/26/08 10:10 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: CMJ]
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Registered: 06/14/03
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Loc: Mahomet, IL
What a bunch of BS. I haven't had anything happen to me like that yet. I live about 10 miles from the University of Illinois and drive by campus occasionally. Yet to hear any comments about how I'm destroying the world. But now I'm prepared and I will respond with more than a simple F bomb.

Who do these people think they are? Just 'cause they decided to buy a hybrid/fuel efficient vehicle, they feel self righteous and feel need to tell you what your doing wrong. Man some people are irritating.
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#417260 - 06/26/08 10:12 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: CMJ]
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Never get out of the boat
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Next time someone in a small car chastises you in your 'guzzler', just say--"YOU got a lot of room to talk! You could be walking, you know!"

---and when they shoot back "Well, so could you!"

say: "I would, but my legs were shot off in Iraq!"

Sure it's a lie, but it might shut 'em up...
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#417276 - 06/26/08 10:59 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Waterdog]
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Obviously there is nothing you can say to someone like that Waterdog. Just smile and waive the next time you pass by.
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#417278 - 06/26/08 11:04 AM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Frantically Relaxing]
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Registered: 01/19/03
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That is interesting.

A sign of the times, I guess.

I read an interesting article this morning about oil and the fact that they don't really know where it originates. Of course the story we've all heard is that it is some kind of decaying plant or animal matter.

But apparently this isn't the only theory. There is some research from Russia that proposes that oil is created as some natural function of the earth's core. That it is constantly renewed and will never run out.

If true, it throws my whole theory out. You see, I've been advocating that if oil is a finite resource, the faster we burn it all up, the better off man will be in the long run. I've been and advocate of everyone driving SUV's - so we burn up the oil fast, and get on to the next thing. However, if the supply of oil is infinite, maybe the Prius drivers are right after all. Who knows...

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#417304 - 06/26/08 12:23 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Indyboater]
CMJ Offline
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Registered: 10/02/06
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Loc: Oldsmar FL
Funny thing with my experience is I saw her at the light before the one she got me at talking to a guy in a Corvette, they were a couple cars in front of me. Corvette guy did a big smokey burnout when he left her! Maybe she will learn that angering the gas guzzler drivers is counterproductive!!
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#417314 - 06/26/08 12:44 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Indyboater]
MarkS Offline
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Registered: 12/01/03
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: Indyboater


I read an interesting article this morning about oil and the fact that they don't really know where it originates. Of course the story we've all heard is that it is some kind of decaying plant or animal matter.

But apparently this isn't the only theory. There is some research from Russia that proposes that oil is created as some natural function of the earth's core. That it is constantly renewed and will never run out.


Have any links to that story?
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#417321 - 06/26/08 12:59 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: MarkS]
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Registered: 04/24/03
Posts: 131
Loc: Denver Colorado
Last year on the way to Lake Powell, going down an empty I-70 in a wide open area.... I passed a family driving a Prius probably at 55 mph, maybe even slower....

Now this is wide open country, hardly a car or truck in sight, and I pass them in my Expedition pulling the boat at about 75mph to 80mph....

Needless to say, I think I almost blew the Prius off the road:)
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#417324 - 06/26/08 01:07 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Denver Boater]
Frantically Relaxing Offline
Never get out of the boat
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Registered: 02/07/03
Posts: 6399
I'd like to see that story too... 2 things I learned as a kid never made sense to me...

--That gravity is created by the earth's spinning...even as a 6 year old I didn't think centrifical force would work in reverse...

--That oil comes from dinosaurs...Not enough dinosaurs---that, and they keep finding their bones all over Utah, but hmm, there's no oil here!

I remember a conversation awhile back where someone said they're finding oil in 'dry' wells...
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#417326 - 06/26/08 01:11 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Frantically Relaxing]
2Suns Offline
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Registered: 09/17/06
Posts: 1204
Loc: Peoria,IL
I think that's where you say, "Thank you for your concern, have a nice day."

People like that aren't interested in having a discussion anyway.

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#417329 - 06/26/08 01:16 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: Denver Boater]
CJS Offline
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Registered: 07/08/04
Posts: 1680
Loc: Down in Fraggle Rock
The most recent episode of Top Gear (can be seen on YouTube) showed a comparison between a Prius and an M3. They were flogging the Prius on their track, and keeping pace on the Prius with the M3. The Prius got a whopping 17mpg driven hard. The M3? 19mpg. The moral of the story? It's not what you drive, but how.

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#417337 - 06/26/08 02:34 PM Re: A new experience while driving my tow vehicle [Re: CJS]
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Loc: Indianapolis
The article about oil was on Kevin Kelly's site - which is fantastic.

http://www.kk.org/ct2/

Quote:
Crude oil is almost $140 per barrel.

By now you'd think we would know where it comes from.

No one really knows. The conventional wisdom is that oil descends from algae from eons ago. Lots and lots of algae. Unimaginable mounds of dead algae in quantities no longer found on this planet, pressed, and cooked into hydrocarbon liquids. Thus: fossil fuel. Others, notably the Russians, have an alternative theory that oil comes from non-biological carbon compounds deep in this planet, like the methane oceans we find on other planets. In this scenario oil is a planetary phenomenon. Indeed this abiogenic oil could still be forming in the earth. Thousands of Russian papers supporting this view have still not been translated. The American astrophysicist Thomas Gold also advocated a similar idea (which may or may not have been influenced by the Russians) in his book "The Deep Hot Biosphere : The Myth of Fossil Fuels".

The best overview for this alternative genesis is this recent scientific paper by G.P. Glasby reviewing the Russian/Gold view in light of research as of 2005. It assumes too much knowledge, and is not the ideal introduction, but it does capture the evidence to date. Ultimately the paper is not sympathetic to the theory. It is available as a PDF here. Excerpt:

The success of the abiogenic theory can be seen by the fact that more than 80 oil and gas fields in the Caspian district have been explored and developed in crystalline basement rock on the basis of this theory.
An emerging third theory is that bacteria living within rocks produce oil. In this theory there is a biological component (the bacteria) which constitute the oil-generating process, but the originating material in not degraded organic material, but rather geological carbon gases. The path is carbon gas --> bug --> oil. Craig Venter and others are exploring the idea of engineering bacteria to make oil from other carbon gases, like CO2. Different bacteria could also be involved in reforming organic material into oil; there may be a multitude of ways oil forms.



In any case I am betting on bacteria as the creators of oil simply because I've learned to never bet against bacteria.

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