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#416433 - 06/24/08 07:25 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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Note the enhansed closed cooling system that allows aluminum to last in salt water. Far more of a system than most closed cooling systems that are used within the marine engine industry. Custom created.

Also note, the 4 tube header system. Custom, also. This engine comes with these headers.
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#416436 - 06/24/08 07:33 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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Other special parts in addition to the crank...pistons, rods, intake and exhaust valves, valve springs, and that camshaft set-up.
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#416437 - 06/24/08 07:37 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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Cost ???
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#416438 - 06/24/08 07:41 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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There may be more, I was taking notes as fast as I could. Sorry if I missed anything.

Oh, pricing. Figure like about five to six times what you could put together a regular 280-300 Hp type small block for if one shopped for 280-300 Hp type parts.

Drive parts are priced and sold separate. Or they will sell just the engine.
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#416439 - 06/24/08 07:43 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: Opus]
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434 C.I.D. is quite large for a "small" block. Do you heve the bore and stroke dimensions?

Not for LSx based motors. I've heard about one knocking on the door of 500 cubic inches. bug_eyes

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#416442 - 06/24/08 07:46 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: F14bombcat]
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Sold by regular marine engine builders for boat use?
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#416443 - 06/24/08 07:49 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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Sold by regular marine engine builders for boat use?

No. Race and street motors though.

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#416477 - 06/24/08 09:38 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: F14bombcat]
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On land, for the street or the strip?
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#416480 - 06/24/08 09:45 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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In small production runs or as a one off?
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#416491 - 06/24/08 10:47 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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Cost = 5 - 6 times the cost of... ouch
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#416508 - 06/24/08 11:35 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: Bowline]
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Quick, ball park answer. Put this engine into your boat, hooking it up to your existing Duo-Prop drive, and using the provided by the engine builder 4 tube headers about $27,000 to $31,000.

So if you want the fastest 206 boat in the East...
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#416517 - 06/24/08 11:50 AM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: seabuddy]
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27-31k extra over the standard 5.7?
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#416568 - 06/24/08 01:58 PM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: D-Rod]
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Sounds a little too costly to be the standard big block replacement.
Probably cheaper to build an SC engine.
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#416578 - 06/24/08 02:30 PM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: WaterMutt]
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I can't help but keep thinking you can make a 434ci 400 based SBC, for a lot less.

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#416582 - 06/24/08 02:39 PM Re: Big Block replacement in a small package [Re: F14bombcat]
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I wouldn't use a 400 sbc block for marine use. Thier larger bore is nice, but the cylinder walls are siamesed, no water jacket, just some small steam holes. These blocks are (maybe just were) notorious for getting hot on the sides if the engines were built up too much, or run at higher rpms for extended periods.

For the next generation of marine engines, I say scrap the old SBC, use the new 6.0 platform. They are getting good power from that engine, and it is more efficient. Put a supercharger on the 6.0 and you'll have a fire breather.
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