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#384337 - 03/01/08 04:32 PM
Re: Time to replace my dual batteries..Which type?
[Re: SilverDawg]
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Admiral
Registered: 03/16/03
Posts: 2726
Loc: Central New York
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Update:
I purchased two Interstate Cranking batteries (same as what came with my Cobalt) Model 24m-xhd, 800 cca, 1000 mca, and reserve capacity of 135 minutes. I have them sitting in the garage floor right now. Interstate Batteries are also located in Dallas, so I thought I would keep it local:)
Should I hook them up to a battery tender before I place them in the boat? I have an onboard charger, but I guess it may not hurt to ensure they are fully charged before I put them in.
Question: If I take a reading with a voltmeter, what should it read to indicate it is fully charged? First, good choice. I wouldn't use a 650cca in a V8. Second, you can't accurately tell the state of charge of a battery with a voltmeter. If you have a trickle charger, just cook it overnight. A dedicated battery tender is meant to keep a charged battery charged. I like to see at least 200 amps @10v on a 15 second carbon pile load test. If it is less than that, I use a fast charge rate and monitor amps and volts. It has taken years, but I can pick out a good, bad or marginal battery very easily. Dave, a gear-reduction starter typically draws around 100 amps on a V8, more in colder weather. Remember, alternators are not battery chargers. They will meet their demise in a premature fashion if they are repeatedly used as a charger, rather than a maintainer. Oh, and the cement floor self-discharge is a wife's tale. Always keep your boat or car battery(s) clean, as dirty batteries will self-discharge.
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#406176 - 05/17/08 03:33 PM
Re: Time to replace my dual batteries..Which type?
[Re: On Holiday]
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Admiral
Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 953
Loc: Long Island NY
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I would like to add to this by asking a similar question. My battery is past borrowed time and am looking for its replacement.
I have been using a Trojan Starting battery 24SM-4 with 700 CCA @ 0 degrees F and 860 MCA @ 32 degrees F with 125 min reserve @ 25 amps. I checked out an auto place and Wally World over lunch and most of the 24 series batteries have much lower CCA and I can't get the same ratings unless going to a 27 series battery but then the battery is too big. Any suggestions? I still have many other battery places to explore.
I have a Sea Ray 180 with a 3.0L. To crank a 3.0 assuming it's in good shape you shouldn't need that much in the way of CCA or MCA. I use 2 group 27s for my 88 FW, I had a pair of WM deep cycles but recently replaced them with a pair of Deka gp 27 dual purpose. I need the dual purpose because this is a moored boat and if there is a storm and water gets in the cover (some does no matter what you do with water proofing) the bilge pump will need to run a bit, probabay not enough to kill the batt, but I don't like to take chances with that, so I don't use a starting only batt. Their dual purpose gp 24 gives you 550 cca (at 0*F) and 685 mca (at 32*F). I would think that would suffice for a 3.0. The gp 27 gives 650 cca and 810 mca, fine for my 4.3 V-6. It is not that much bigger, are you sure it will not fit? It's basically 1 1/2 in longer same width and height. Weight is 49 lbs for the 27 and 42 lbs for the 42. Trojans are known as the top of the heap in batteries, why not just get another one of those? To have those specs I bet it's an AGM battery which are great but usually about 2x the price of a conventional. A starting only batt will always have higher cranking amps than a dual purpose or pure deep cycle. The Dekas were about 79 each at a local marine shop, good deal for a gp 27. If you trailer the boat and you don't have a lot of accessories running the starting only batt will be fine. Deka's starting only gp 24 comes in various cca levels, ranging from 460 to 875, the higher cca ones weight more, all are the same size gp 24. So if a starting only batt is fine for you, that's a cheaper alternative to the Trojan.
Edited by Lou C (05/17/08 03:40 PM)
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