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#382046 - 02/22/08 04:43 PM QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO WOOD!  
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as it says!!! got 15 minutes afore I leave!!

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#382049 - 02/22/08 04:44 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO WOOD! [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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#382051 - 02/22/08 04:45 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO WOOD! [Re: WaterMutt]  
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#382053 - 02/22/08 04:47 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: WaterMutt]  
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Genmar brands (Larson, Four Winns, Glastron, etc) using VEC technology or something similar. I forget which brands used it and which didn't. But I know Genmar had a program a couple of years ago.

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#382055 - 02/22/08 04:48 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: D-Rod]  
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cool!!!

#382056 - 02/22/08 04:49 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: Frantically Relaxing]  
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Larson and Genmar® have now introduced the world to an innovative technology. Virtual Engineered Composites™, or VEC™ technology, is the most significant achievement ever in fiberglass boat building. The closed-mold VEC process significantly cuts production time, from one full day to as little as 70 minutes, and is better for the environment because 90% less styrene is released during the laminating process. Clearly, VEC technology is on track to become the standard for making recreational runabout boats.


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#382058 - 02/22/08 04:50 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: D-Rod]  
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Glastron's longtime focus on fiberglass boats of trailerable size (they now offer 24 models from 17 to 27 feet) has resulted in a long list of industry innovations. Most recently, they were the first company to introduce the VEC® technology, a highly automated closed mold manufacturing method that allows boats to be built with greater precision and higher quality than ever before possible. Thirteen of this year's Glastron models are made with the VEC® process and are backed with a lifetime limited structural warranty.


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#382061 - 02/22/08 04:53 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: D-Rod]  
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Vec boats are no wood, cool---

reason I ask is, my friend's old Crownline, which should be getting replaced tonight, it's second floor is rotting out. Can't hardly keep a chair bolted down, so I'm going to suggest a no wood boat...

Thanks all!

#382062 - 02/22/08 04:54 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: D-Rod]  
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IDK about Four Winns. I think they might use it on the Horizon series. Ask someone who else might know.


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#382065 - 02/22/08 04:59 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: D-Rod]  
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#382101 - 02/22/08 08:02 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: Al]  
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No wood? Where? Hull? Deck? Interior structure? Backing plate to hold the gas pedal control handle? Cockpit floor?

#382102 - 02/22/08 08:03 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: seabuddy]  
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VEC is a hull only process, IMO.

#382107 - 02/22/08 08:43 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: seabuddy]  
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My 2005 Larson, built with VEC hull technology, has wood under the gunnels, between the inside cockpit wall and the outside hull. Sort of like making a bulkhead. I was very disapointed, as the sales rep kept touting it as "all wood free construction".


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#382110 - 02/22/08 09:01 PM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: Just Bob]  
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 Originally Posted By: Just Bob
My 2005 Larson, built with VEC hull technology, has wood under the gunnels, between the inside cockpit wall and the outside hull. Sort of like making a bulkhead. I was very disapointed, as the sales rep kept touting it as "all wood free construction".


Your not alone Bob. The "No Wood" claim is a bigger pet peeve for me than the model #/LOA/Hull Length debate...


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#382139 - 02/23/08 02:01 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: LanierBoater]  
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Err, FR, so far as the floor goes, any linered cockpit will be fiberglass. Which is a common feature on many bowrider brands today. Even Crownline. Only the cheapest (smallest) bowriders still have wood floors.

Kelly

#382144 - 02/23/08 05:48 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: Al]  
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#382166 - 02/23/08 08:32 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: Al]  
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What stiffens the underside of any given fiberglass liner?

#382167 - 02/23/08 08:36 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: seabuddy]  
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Thanks, Al. What model year did they go to "no wood below the waterline" for hull, hull structure, and small brackets/parts?

#382196 - 02/23/08 10:23 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: seabuddy]  
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 Originally Posted By: seabuddy
What stiffens the underside of any given fiberglass liner?

Earliest linered cockpits simply laid the 'glas on top of the usual wood. Which made the boats even heavier. But I think the newer designs are on top of the stringer grid?

In any event, the presence of the liner is a barrier against the water that used to soak the wood floor. So I would expect a liner to reduce the rot problem, a lot.

Kelly

#382201 - 02/23/08 10:35 AM Re: QUICK!!!!!!!! MFR's who build boats with NO W [Re: KCook]  
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A fiberglass cockpit floor needs something bonded to it/inside it to stiffen the expanse. Some use stuff that is said to not rot, others? Most production made fiberglass boats use fiberglass that will let in water over time. Liners certainly are a step up from some other stuff, but its also what is inside, IMO.

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