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#376071 - 02/02/08 11:11 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: D-Rod]
KCook Offline
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Speaking of exploring ... how do these Cobalt prices stack up against the Chap 236?

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#376072 - 02/02/08 11:17 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: KCook]
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What is the LOA of the Chap 236?

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#376078 - 02/02/08 11:58 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: seabuddy]
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Alright. We're adding the 212 to the list too.
Now we're at New 212, used 220, 220 '06 holdover, used 246, used 250 and maybe a used 262. 255 and 263 also thrown in. I'm also looking at SR 240 Select. The 240 Cobalt is out; gotta have a sunpad for beer consumption.

Boat is for Vancouver in-land waters comfort, i think its rougher water than Seattle in-land, must have sun-pad and prefer to avoid the 496 fuel guzzler.

My head is going to explode.

It was so easy last time. No clue, walk down to a dock, look at a beautiful, "kitted out" black 200 Select that i figure could pull $30-32K up here, but my budget is $25K so i offer to stretch to $27K and the guy calls back 2 days later and says ok. I sell 3 most later for $25.8K after 40 motor hours, 120 more sitting hours and some minor damage caused by being a Newbie.

Eventually, i am going to have to quit being an boat analyst and get back to work.

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#376133 - 02/02/08 05:50 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Fivefasts]
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Will the 240 Select come with a 5.7, or a 5.0?

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#376142 - 02/02/08 06:36 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: D-Rod]
2006 226 Offline
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The 222 makes exceptional use of space. As a 226 owner, this is one of two features that I'm envious of:
1. Space utilization, namely coolers. (I love the one on the port side of the engine compartment.) The 226 has an anemic cooler.
2. The hard-backed bow seats with the lift cylinders. This was just common sense. Why it did not happen earlier...who knows?

Now, for looks... In my humble opinion, there is absolutely no comparison. The 226 and 246, in addition to being the longest tenured hull offerings from Cobalt in the manufacturer's history, are the absolute sexiest looking boats they have made - both in and out of the water. (The new boats are very "freeboardy", but wow, are they good users space.) They don't look bad in the water, but out of it... Having said all of this, the new ones are great boats, as all Cobalts are. Like everything, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd take a new 252!..."freeboardy" and all...
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2006 Cobalt 226
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#376180 - 02/02/08 10:44 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: seabuddy]
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 Originally Posted By: seabuddy
Maybe this will help...

200 22' 5" LOA 40 gal tank 4' bridge clearance 220 Hp to 320 Hp

212 25' 7" LOA 50 gal tank 4' 9" br clear 220 Hp to 320 Hp

220 24' LOA 50 gal tank 4' 3" br clear 260 to 425 Hp

All LOA include the swim platform in the number.

The 212 has a different style to its hull sides. The 212 has a deeper cockpit, as its a taller boat design.

Note, these numbers do not really give the true feeling of a Cobalt.



Just a misprint 212 LOA is 23' 7"
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#376193 - 02/03/08 12:51 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: MedSeaAPC]
seabuddy Offline
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My mistake. Thanks for the correction. Sorry that my eyes failed me.

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#376307 - 02/03/08 12:09 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: seabuddy]
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I got a bit excited thinking the 212 might be that big. Still a really nice boat though.

Well another misfire.
I was Ebay bidding on black 2005 Cobalt 220 that sold for $38500.
More than I expected since there are a few of those boats available on the various boat websites. Too bad, she was a beaut!

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#376314 - 02/03/08 12:33 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Fivefasts]
seabuddy Offline
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What LOA boat do you want?

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#376478 - 02/03/08 07:13 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: seabuddy]
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Well I sold my 200 Select thinking i wanted a bigger more stable platform for the inland waters. I didn't want to move up 2' each year, so i thought i would jump to 24'.

I'm starting to think that 24' might not make enough of a difference in the chop and swell of Vancouver's inland waters. So if i'm not going solve my issue without going to 26'- 28' which means i won't likely be trailering the boat and parking it in my garage, then maybe I should just by a 22' boat and reduce my cash outlay until i'm ready to get a boat that is going to be moored.

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#376496 - 02/03/08 07:39 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Fivefasts]
seabuddy Offline
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Maybe you need to get a good running-in-a-chop boat, for its size.

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#376602 - 02/03/08 10:00 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Fivefasts]
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 Originally Posted By: Fivefasts
Well I sold my 200 Select thinking i wanted a bigger more stable platform for the inland waters. I didn't want to move up 2' each year, so i thought i would jump to 24'.

I'm starting to think that 24' might not make enough of a difference in the chop and swell of Vancouver's inland waters. So if i'm not going solve my issue without going to 26'- 28' which means i won't likely be trailering the boat and parking it in my garage, then maybe I should just by a 22' boat and reduce my cash outlay until i'm ready to get a boat that is going to be moored.


The problem is that without test driving the different models you will not know how they run in chop. I was very happy with how our 226 handled 1 ft chop when I test drove it with FLB. There is a lot that goes into a soft running boat other than length. Length definately has an effect, but so do many other things.

I don't know if Cobalt has much variation in their deadrise or keel angles. If you are going to step away from Cobaly, make sure you test drive as a 24ft Sea Ray (insert any other brand here) may not ride as well or may ride better than a 24 ft Cobalt.

You might find that a 22 will handle the chop fine givent the conditions you normally boat in. Also, keep in mind a 22 foot boat takes a lot more room than 22 feet to store it.
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#376693 - 02/04/08 07:37 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Silverbullet]
seabuddy Offline
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Add about 5 feet to the LOA for storage lenght?

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#377787 - 02/07/08 01:02 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: seabuddy]
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These Brits crack me up. Here is a little write up of a Cobalt 222.

" but I thought not a bad little boat"
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#377797 - 02/07/08 02:29 PM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: Capn Morgan]
KCook Offline
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That particular YBW member is a professional captain. Does a lot of deliveries and instruction with a wide range of private boats. Wish I had even a fraction of his time on the water.

Kelly

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#378251 - 02/09/08 03:08 AM Re: 226 vs 220 vs 222 Cobalt [Re: KCook]
seabuddy Offline
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Composite Drive, rather than metal, it seems.

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