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#308490 - 04/16/07 09:22 PM Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye?  
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I always used a safety strap in our old boat. Now I am thinking of using a bow safety chain on our new boat due to the heavier load. I've been looking at the best way to attach it to the trailer and am wonding what others do. SHould I attach the chain to the trailer below the bow eyelet so that the chain runs up (probably allows more movement of the boat if the winch strap came loose) or should I attach it high up the pillar that the winch is mounted on, that that if the strap came loose the chain would grab pretty quickly?

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#308493 - 04/16/07 09:28 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: TanandGreen]  
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On my trailer there was a hole drilled into the brace for the winch post that I attached my chain to. If the strap breaks the boat would slide back maybe six inches before the chain catches it.

We hook the chain up before we pull up from the ramp and unhook the chain only when the boat is floating.


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#308497 - 04/16/07 09:32 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: TanandGreen]  
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I use a safety chain and a bow strap. The chain is anchored to the winch post (factory location) and the strap is mounted to the tongue.

#308513 - 04/16/07 10:26 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: rwidman]  
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I use the bow winch strap plus an additional safety strap when towing.

#308515 - 04/16/07 10:31 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: trooplewis]  
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I use an addition transom tie down strap on the bow eye. There is an eye welded to the trailer just below the winch. It will allow some movement if the boat comes loose and wants to slide off, but it will keep it on the trailer.


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#308524 - 04/16/07 11:23 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Silverbullet]  
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Directly below my bow eye, there is nothing because the cross piece of the A is in front of it. I use two straps, one to each side of the trailer. Actually, I think this works better than a single tie because it keeps the bow centered. by the way, the straps go the shortest distance to the trailer frame, so there is virtually no movement in any direction.


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#308537 - 04/17/07 12:46 AM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: rwidman]  
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rwidman,

 Originally Posted By: rwidman
I use a safety chain and a bow strap. The chain is anchored to the winch post (factory location) and the strap is mounted to the tongue.


So you have three items (winch strap, safety chain, and safety strap) going through your bow eye? How do you have room for all three?

I would be interested in seeing a picture of how all three items are squeezed onto your bow eye.

Thanks!


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#308640 - 04/17/07 01:07 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Titanium]  
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Bow winch strap and an Ancra brand motorcycle strap to the post that supports the winch works for me.


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#308642 - 04/17/07 01:12 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: deepv]  
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THanks for the tips. I think I'm gonna go with a chain for peace (piece?) of mind. Those transom tie downs, if used on the bow, could come undone if the boat moved forward or down enough and then would "open" and slide apart.

Titanium: you must put one hook through the hook of another on your bow eye?


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#308643 - 04/17/07 01:15 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Titanium]  
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 Originally Posted By: Titanium
rwidman,

..............

So you have three items (winch strap, safety chain, and safety strap) going through your bow eye? How do you have room for all three?

I would be interested in seeing a picture of how all three items are squeezed onto your bow eye.

Thanks!


I'll see if I can get a picture but they all fit. The strap hook is an "S" hook probably 1/4" in diameter. The other two are pretty hefty forged hooks. The "keeper" on the safety chain used to get in the way but it finally rusted and I removed it. There's enough room now and gravity keeps the hook on.

#308666 - 04/17/07 02:04 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: TanandGreen]  
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Here's how Shorelander chose to do mine:



Maybe the chain should have been attached to the lower bar instead? I don't know, I've never had the winch strap break!



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#308768 - 04/17/07 09:57 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: BillyB]  
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I have used a chain for the past 2 seasons by wrapping it in a series of loops around the crossmember at the front of my trailer and hooking both ends through the bow eye. That's a really tight fit, though, and a major pain to undo. I picked up a motorcycle strap over the winter to replace the chain.


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#308858 - 04/18/07 09:13 AM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: CJS]  
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 Originally Posted By: CJS
I have used a chain for the past 2 seasons by wrapping it in a series of loops around the crossmember at the front of my trailer and hooking both ends through the bow eye. That's a really tight fit, though, and a major pain to undo. I picked up a motorcycle strap over the winter to replace the chain.


Look at the photo above. You should be able to duplicate this setup pretty easily.

#309923 - 04/22/07 04:36 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: rwidman]  
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I just bought an 8 ft safety chain from the local Auto parts store and ask them to cut 8 inches off one end. He did then I ask him to cut the other end at the hook cause he couldn't open the hook eye to get the chain out. he did.
That left me with 7 1/2 ft of chain which the parts guy cut in half for me and those made the two chains I hook to my rode and anchors. Worked out great. I still have the one s end I didn't use. I figured I or someone else will have a use for it sometime.

The 8 inch chain with the Hook. I drilled and bolted with washers to the winch stand and the Hook goes into Boat Eye Bolt along with the winch strap hook. If the strap broke the Boat would only slip back about four inches and with the chain bolted a little down on an angle it would also keep the boat from lifting very high while on the trailer.

It's a heavy Galvanized chain so rust shouldn't be a problem. It hasn't rusted yet anyway two years old and they are used a lot too.

#310644 - 04/25/07 01:52 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Chuck "OWN-IT"]  
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The first thing I did when we picked up the new boat was to put a safety chain on the trailer to the boat. Let's see, a 6,000 lb. boat being held in place by a nylon strap, somehow that doesn't make me all comfortable. Adding a length of chain to reinforce things gives me peace of mind and it's cheap.

#310648 - 04/25/07 02:12 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Chappy256]  
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my trailer came with the safelty chain already attached. I use it w/o even thinking about it.


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#310653 - 04/25/07 02:29 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Bowline]  
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Is it possible that a chain attached to the winch stancion will really hold a 6000 pound boat if something drastic happened? I look at the safety chain as something that will keep the boat from sliding while launching, loading, and emergency stops that don't lead to an accident or loss of control.


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#310673 - 04/25/07 04:01 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Jack T]  
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My brother in law just called me yesterday to tell me about his winch misshap. He was going up a pretty steep hill leaving the marina and the winch gear actually broke a few teeth and let the drum spin freely. Needless to say, he about $h#t himself when he realized what was happening. Before he could get out to do anything the safety chain stopped the boat from sliding. He just got his boat (Cobalt 200) at the end of last season.


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#310674 - 04/25/07 04:24 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Cobalt24sx]  
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I have a cable instead of a chain. It's attached to the trailer frame, not the winch tower. I guess if the winch strap broke, the boat would slip back about 2 feet or so. Don't know if that's good or bad, but that's the way it came from the factory:



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#310679 - 04/25/07 05:06 PM Re: Do you use a safety chain in your bow eye? [Re: Just Bob]  
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Bob - I've been pondering the cable. At first I liked it, but I'm wondering ... how are the ends attached? I assume they are crimped into some sort of retaining eye ???? If you've really got 2' of slack, in a crisis that could put an awful yank on that connector. Don't mean to be critical, just thinking out loud.

I have the chain on my trailer set up with only enough slack to get the hook through the bow eye, then I back off the winch some so the chain is taking a little of the strain. Relying on the winch + strap alone would make me nervous.


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