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#290400 - 02/07/07 12:03 PM First Boat: Jet or Outboard?  
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I am looking to purchase a used boat to use for watersports and am in need of feedback.

Looking to spend <$3500
16' or less
Enough power for pulling Tubes
Maintenance Pros and Cons:
Jet versus Outboard

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#290403 - 02/07/07 12:17 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: grekeal]  
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Jets force water through a narrow housing to concentrate its force to push the boat/PWC, its like a fire hose when you use the boat. Warning, do not let folks back there when that stream can blast water inside their bodies.

O/Bs turn an exposed prop to push the boat forward. Warning, do not let folks back there when the engine can cut folks with the sharp prop.

Jets take more Hp to get the same performance as a O/B.

Repairs/care expenses would be more a function of condition of what you buy than the type of power.

#290404 - 02/07/07 12:20 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: grekeal]  
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With a used boat in that price range you may not find many good choices. End up with whichever boat is in the best shape, regardless of type. Here is another thread comparing jets to outboards -

Boating 101 advice - shallow running - which drive

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#290416 - 02/07/07 12:44 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: KCook]  
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If you are doing water sports get an outboard. If you boat in water that has a lot of rockd and stumps get a Jet. The river I live on most people use outboard jets.

#290427 - 02/07/07 12:56 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: KCook]  
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2002 Sundance K16SC with O/B Merc



1977 Dixie 17' Bowrider with 100hp Evinrude.

It's either something similar to these, or a used PWC in that price range. Good Luck.


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#290494 - 02/07/07 03:19 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Capn Morgan]  
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I have been thinking about this:
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#290499 - 02/07/07 03:38 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: grekeal]  
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If it runs well, it would certainly do the job. Jets are wickedly fun to drive.


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#290500 - 02/07/07 03:38 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: grekeal]  
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It looks like alot more fun than those 2 I posted. Make sure you have a certified tech go over the entire boat, including the engine and drive. It will be several hundred dollars well spent.

If there is a problem with the drive, which can easily happen, sucking in sand, weeds etc. the repair bill can quickly amount to 1/2 of what you pay for the boat. Also, get a sea trial to make sure it is what you expect it to be.


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#290599 - 02/07/07 10:29 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Capn Morgan]  
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I think that Seaswirl would be a lot of fun, but I'd never trade my Taylor for it.

Jet drives are so easy/simple to work on, that maintenance or the very rare "repair" is not hard to do yourself.


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#290618 - 02/07/07 11:31 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Lowrider78]  
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How many people do you want to take boating? How about when you are pulling tubes. Are the people 70-80lb kids or 250 lb adults?

I would bet that the 115 hp jet would perform about like a 50-60 hp outboard on a 15' boat. OK, but not what you would call a lot of power. If you have a driver and spotter only, you could probably pull up a smaller adult on skis, or tubing would be OK if not a lot of weight in the tube.

C'mon Cap'n... I have nothing against a good value in a used trihull but that pea-green Dixie is sort of ugly. \:\)

I would recommend buying a boat with an outboard in the 85-115 hp range. My first boat was an over 10 years old $2,800. 15' Glastron w/90 outboard. My bro-in law still has it and it is running fine. Whatever you buy, make sure you are able to do a water test. Meet the owner at a lake, take it for a spin to see if starts, runs and drives OK. It is also worth taking it to a boat mechanic - preferably one that services the brand of motor you are considering buying. Pay $75 - $85 to have them look it over and give you their opinion.

#290694 - 02/08/07 10:51 AM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Skibrain]  
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 Originally Posted By: Skibrain


C'mon Cap'n... I have nothing against a good value in a used trihull but that pea-green Dixie is sort of ugly. \:\)



Sort of ???? It's hideous.


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#290817 - 02/08/07 07:41 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Capn Morgan]  
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One issue with jet boats is that I think they tend to get abused.

I almost bought a jet boat last year; a 1996 Rinker Rocket with the same Mercury 115hp engine. Asking price was $4500, and I got them down to under $3K.

But during the sea trial, we rejected the deal. Boat ended up having a serious problem. It would not get up to speed; discovered the impeller housing (aluminum) had deterioated enough that could not maintain a good seal, it was sucking air at high RPM.

I looked at replacement parts, and the impeller housing was part of the lower engine housing. A new one was something like $2,000. Talk about rip-off.

Anyway, I was so depressed I went out and bought a 32ft boat.


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#290818 - 02/08/07 07:43 PM Re: First Boat: Jet or Outboard? [Re: Al]  
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I don't think pea-green could hurt having a coat of paint.


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1999 Four Winns 225
1996 Rinker 180

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