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#23543 - 02/03/04 08:23 PM Boat Lift Questions  
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We are looking to purchase a boat lift this Spring and I have quickly discovered that no two are alike.

What are some brands that you have and what do you like/dislike about your setup?

What should I look for..or lookout for when shopping for a lift?

PS...I'm looking at a 6000lb lift that I can back on.


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#23544 - 02/03/04 08:27 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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I like the Lakeshore Products lift, it's a very solid and well built lift. I haven't had any problems with it at all.

The most important things you should look for is build quality and weight capacity.

What exactly do you mean by back on??? Back the boat on the hoist???


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#23545 - 02/03/04 08:31 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Here is the website for lakeshore products. They also manufacture docks, which are well built as well. http://lakeshoreproducts.com/


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#23546 - 02/03/04 08:41 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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yes, I would like to back the boat on the lift. Makes it much more secure to would be theives wanting to steal your outdrive. Plus it is easier loading and unloading.


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#23547 - 02/03/04 08:45 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Geez, I don't think I've ever seen a back on lift. Why not just put an outdrive lock on???


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#23548 - 02/03/04 08:47 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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I have a Hydro hoist 6000lb L series. Over the years my family has owned several lifts. One was manufactured by Boat Floater, this one was one of the first to bring the boat up level. It had metal tanks, after 10 years it sprung leaks. I have had the Hydro hoist for 6 years. A couple of years ago I upgraded it to a 6000lb from a 4000lb lift by adding a third tank. They make the 6000lb in two configurations, one with 3 tanks and another with 2 larger tanks. The three-tank model can operate in a little shallower water. The risk with the three-tank model is your out drive can knock a hole in back of the middle tank. I have had no problems at all with the Hydro hoist. I leave my boat on it year round. It works great.


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#23549 - 02/03/04 08:49 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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A Hydrohoist can be configured for backing in.


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#23550 - 02/03/04 08:50 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Hey LakeO. We've talked before about THE lake and I can give you a little insight about the lifts built at the lake. Much depends on where your boat will be on the lake. The rougher the water, the more you need to spend.

Hands down, the best lift built at the lake is a Polylift built by Hydro Systems along Hwy. Five just south of Laurie. They cost a lot but you can stand five feet away (not that I recommend it) and fire a .44 magnum at the tanks and it bounces off. Much heavier steel construction. I bought my 6000# used in 1999 and paid over $3500 for it and have never regretted it. These are shipped nationwide to people who have done the research. If you had a condo at Summer Place at the 33 or 34 mile marker on the Osage, you have to lease a lift from them and Polylift is their choice. Other condo's I know have specific specs as to what they will allow.

At our condo, several bought what was then a Precision boat lift and they are now sold under the name Caravelle. NOT recommended! They are being serviced all the time and are just a simple thin fiberglass block tank. Same for Econolift but I believe they are slightly better. the price may look right, but these are trouble with a capital "T".

Galvalift is another pretty decent lift. I would definitley go for the poly tanks...not the fiberglass. The galvanized steel float tanks are somewhere in between. If you need more...I have several very knowledgeable friends at the lake that know much more than I do about some of the speficic lift builders if there is a particular brand you need to know more about.

As to backing on, you can do it with any of them as long as you stop the boat before going on the lift, raise your sterndrive and then pull the boat on. Otherwise, I am not familiar with any lifts that let you back in under power unless possible a straight inboard.

Happy hunting!


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#23551 - 02/03/04 09:17 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Watch the height. By my calculations I will need 10 feet of clearance from the floor to the roof of the dock for the 262 with arch to clear in a calm location. If the dock is exposed to very rough water you may need 12feet.


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#23552 - 02/04/04 01:06 AM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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LakeO, are you looking at a floating lift like the ones being suggested or one that stands on the bottom? If the site is very windy a standing lift would be more appropriate. They pick the boat up completely out of the water.


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#23553 - 02/04/04 12:41 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Thanks for all of the input. I am going to be putting the boat at Table Rock lake which is not nearly as rough a lake as Lake O. However, the specific dock that I will be in will get some pretty good waves as it sits out in the cove further than the others. I will for sure check out the polylifts.

I went with a 12 x 30 slip so it would be tall enough to handle the arch. I could have opted for the 10 x 28, but then the bow would have been sticking out and the roof was not as high.

I know you can buy lifts that you can "motor" on to backwards. Village Marina has them (I need to ask them what brand they are).

I can't use a lift that stands on the bottom at Table Rock. The water gets super deep right off shore.

I'm heading to the St. Louis boat show this weekend so I will check some of the lifts out while I am there.

Any more suggestions are very much appreciated.


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#23554 - 02/04/04 05:38 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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LakeO - Some of the cruisers at my marina at Stockton Lake have lifts that allow them to "back on". The marina rents the slips with the lifts in them, and as far as I know they only use Hydro-Hoist lifts.

We also had a Hydro Hoist lift when I was a kid and my folks had a place at the lake across from Four Seasons. Never had a problem with the lift, and we had quite a bit of rough water from the traffic in that area.


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#23555 - 02/04/04 07:50 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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LakeO:
Without reading all the entries again, I would like to ask what is the gain from backing in? Personally, I don't see a benefit, but I do see some reasons it might not be a good idea. I won't expound on those right now, but I would like to have clarification on the advantages of backing in.


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#23556 - 02/04/04 08:22 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Jack - I think LakeO wants to back in primarily for ease of loading/unloading from the dock to the boat. I know it is also nice for the "social" aspect of being on the dock. Your cockpit can become your "patio" on the dock condo. Those at my lake that back their boats onto the lift typically only raise the boat out of the water when they are not there. If they are there and on the boat, they want to be down at dock level.


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#23557 - 02/04/04 09:32 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Many at Center Hill Lake use Hydrahoist (There is a dealer within 15 miles). However, when I did my research for a 6,000 lb lift, I bought a Bottoms Up Boat Lift. Rectangular tanks with slats on top. If needed you can lay on slats to work on bottom of boat. The Bottoms Up lift was also cheaper than Hydrahoist. When it was being installed, a Hydrahoist installer happened by and was extremely impressed with the construction. Check out the photos on the website: bottomsupboatlift.com

Also, as an fyi, my marina will not allow the front mounted boat lifts due to stress on the slip.


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#23558 - 02/04/04 11:29 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Lake,

I have owned a Hyrdohoist for 10 years and upgraded mine just as atms did when I purchased my 23 foot SeaRay several years ago. I have an older style lift with round tanks and metal "attach bands". In most cases it's a good idea to replace the lower bands which are always exposed to water every four years or so. The new models have rectagular tanks and the attach points are above the water - problem solved.

I would also recommend purchasing a lift with at least a 7,000 - 7,500 capacity. I'm guessing your Cobalt will weigh nearly 6,000 lbs. with options and fuel. You may even wish to consider a larger lift if there's a chance you'll be purchasing a larger boat in a few years.

If you can find a used one, you'll save $$$, just as Aquaholic did.

And, yes certain model HyrdroHoists will allow you to back in. I wish I could with mine for the same reason Eric stated. Not a huge problem with a bowrider though. I just sit in the bow seats when I'm socailizing with other dockmates. However, if you back in, your outdrive/prop may become much more attractive to a would be thief.

#23559 - 02/05/04 12:55 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Jack, Eric hit the nail on the head on backing the boat into the slip. It is something that I started doing a little over a year ago and I just prefer it now. Makes loading and unloading the kids and my Mother much easier. \:\)

Searide, you might be right about needing a heavier lift capacity. Don't tell my wife I might want a bigger boat!! LOL


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#23560 - 02/05/04 04:09 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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LakeO...Just wanted to let you know that I had a 1990 252 on my 6000 PolyLift and it worked great on that boat which supposedly weighed in at 4200#. But I will tell you that with my 262 on the same lift (no arch, no extended swim, Merc 496) it works fine except it does take longer to "get it up." I don't know whether it's my age or the boat weighs in just under the lift capacity. As they say, bigger is better!


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#23561 - 02/05/04 07:31 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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Man Aquaholic...you have opened yourself up for a few hits there! LOL ;\)

I think several lifts are offered in the 6500lb range. I think that would be perfect.


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#23562 - 02/09/04 12:41 PM Re: Boat Lift Questions  
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After reviewing all of the lifts at the St. Louis boat show this weekend I think I have decided on the Hydrohoist with the new plastic tanks (where no metal is in the water).

It is a 6600 pound lift and looks like a very well built unit.

We also looked at the remote control setups that allow you to operate the lift from the boat. This would be a great option for me as I take my 6 year old alot by myself. This way he won't have to climb back into the boat after raising the lift.

Do any of you have a remote setup? What do you think of it?


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