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#206025 - 07/19/06 12:48 PM GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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My son is real hot to get one of the GMC Acadia crossover SUVs next year to replace his old Expedition. Here is a link to an unofficial (non-GM) website for a most complete description. It looks like there are models on the same platform planned for GMC, Saturn, and Buick.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/07/12/2007-gmc-acadia-revealed/

and Edmunds.com
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=116089#5

The power train is pretty impressive as is the EPA mileage estimates. It features a 267-horsepower 3.6-liter V6 mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. Seating for up to 8 adults. Towing capacity of 4500 pounds.







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#206026 - 07/19/06 12:58 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Looks pretty nice...I will embarrassingly admit that when I saw the pic below at Edmund's site of the interior, I thought "Hmm...steering is on wrong side". Then, I remembered I was looking at an auto, not a boat



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#206027 - 07/19/06 01:02 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Looks a little BMW from the rear, Mercedes/Lexus from the front. Will say, I like the styling.

I wonder how good that V-6 will be? Seems like GM is making an awful lot of different engine models. Why not spend their money, create one GREAT engine of each size, then figure out how to engineer it into the vehicle. I hope the V-6 has a broader power-band then 4.2 I6. The I6 is silky smooth, but geez, it doesn't produce much power down low \:\( .

Interesting vehicle.

Hopefully it's not half-butted \:\) .

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#206028 - 07/19/06 01:21 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Does it have 4-wheel steering?


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#206029 - 07/19/06 01:32 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Wow, GM is finally catching up in style and design.
My suburban is a 2003 and it's still designed like a 1980 car.


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#206030 - 07/19/06 01:40 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Is it different than the Equinox?


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#206031 - 07/19/06 02:09 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Yes, different platform. The Equinox is based on a minivan platform, I do believe, like many small suv's. It only has a 3500 lb tow rating.

I was talking to a GM engineer, and he was big on this engine. It's the same basic one that the use for lots of things, they're just tweaking the horsepower for different applications. He suggested it to me as a nice small suv that will still tow something.


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#206032 - 07/19/06 02:17 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Be interested to hear D_C's comments on this vehicle.


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#206033 - 07/19/06 02:59 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Looks a lot like a VW Touareg to me. I like the numbers on it. When is its release date?


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#206034 - 07/19/06 03:27 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Looks good, but 4,500 tow capacity is still limiting to pretty small boats. Remember you're DEDUCTING from the tow rating the weight of everthing in the truck, everthing in the boat, and the trailer. Doesn't leave much weight for the boat... \:\(

Nice looking grocery-getter, though. \:\)


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#206035 - 07/19/06 03:30 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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A quick check of GCWR vs GVWR was about 3100lbs.


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#206036 - 07/19/06 03:50 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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looks sweet HMMMM!!


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#206037 - 07/19/06 06:52 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Originally posted by Philr:
Be interested to hear D_C's comments on this vehicle.
Me too. I appreciate his commentary on vehicles, being a bit of a car buff, myself.


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#206038 - 07/19/06 06:52 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Not enough towing capacity. I'll keep my Envoy.


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#206039 - 07/20/06 07:25 AM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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The Equinox is based on the SAturn Vue platform.

THis is an all new vehicle, and from the insiders I talk to, its the first GM car in a very long time that is finally a no-excuses, "whole package" vehicle.

This is what will replace the TrailBlazer and Envoy, as they will die by the end of the decade (thats official, by the way).

THe reason this vehicle exists is that with the rising gas prices, sales of the Body on Frame SUVs like the TrailBlazer and Explorer have literally fallen off a cliff. Be looking for Ford to answer this vehicle and watch them do what they do so well...ignore a best seller and let it rot on the vine.

Unfortunately, while I really think this vehicle is what GM needs, I bemoan the loss of the compact BOF SUVs. I personally hate driving trucks and am currently searching for a sportier compact SUV to tow a 23 foot bowrider. THe pickins are slim down in that range...everyone wants a full size truck.


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#206040 - 07/20/06 08:20 AM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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I bemoan the loss of the compact BOF SUVs.
I will do the same. I was wanting a Trailblazer/Envoy for the Mrs to drive, and that would also tow my Chap 2135. Maybe we will get a cruiser, then she can continue to drive an Impala.

I like the looks of these new vehicles just fine. And if fuel prices stay high, GM will look smart phasing out the lesser economical Trailblazer/Envoy. But if fuel price fall in the next couple of years, I'll bet a nickel that they keep making the "larger" mid size SUV's.


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#206041 - 07/20/06 01:06 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Not necessarily. Remember, most of the great unwashed populace buy these cars for the image. Ween them off BOF vehicles and into better handling cars like this Acadia, and you will see people not want to go back to a BOF type vehicle. They need the utility in terms of space, but comparitively few purchase them for the heavy duty towing power. And then we have the spectre of GM basically ignoring the TrailBlazer and not developing it, which devalues the nameplate and turns the car into a vicious cycle: Sales falter, GM stops putting money into it because of it, car gets stale, image gets bad, sales fall more, GM stops advertising, sales fall more, car is unceremoniously canned......

I do see a niche for a BOF SUV, but i don't see the mass offerings that we have today. In fact, I would be willing to bet that the Explorer also dies/remains unchanged by 2010, considering what they have coming out.


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#206042 - 07/20/06 02:17 PM Re: GM's New Crossover SUVs  
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Also, remember that the average fuel economy of our vehicles have risen since the 60s. Unless we start seeing mass development put into BOF trucks to improve performance and fuel economy, with the gas prices the way they are, I doubt BOF vehicles will see the heyday they used to. I see vehicles like the Nissan Xterra sticking around, because its a utilitarian vehicle that is relavtively inexpensive and simple. The TrailBlazer, conversely, is all over the place in terms of trim and appeal.

One more point: Gas prices are NOT going down. Certainly not to the levels they were two years ago. They will continue to go up. With all the emphasis on global warming and political turmoil, we have gas prices that will NOT be going down. If anything, they will go up from here.

I forsee a lot more hybrids and diesels on our horizon.


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